TomB_tx Posted January 7, 2016 Share #1 Posted January 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Saw that Kodak announced a new Super8 movie camera, and color negative film, sold with processing and digital transfer. Supposed to be a standard Super8 cartridge. May be time to dig out my Leicina! http://www.kodak.com/ek/us/en/Consumer/Products/Super8/default.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Hi TomB_tx, Take a look here New Kodak Super8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Michael Hiles Posted January 7, 2016 Share #2 Posted January 7, 2016 Amazing. I suppose they believe they can make some money. But I can't see how. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 7, 2016 Share #3 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Good news , I will then get out my Leicina It reminds me that Quentin Tarantino has just released his movie "The Hateful Eight" in film 70mm Thanks for your link Best Henry Edited January 7, 2016 by Doc Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2016 Share #4 Posted January 7, 2016 Is it April already? I can see the merit of working on 70 mm film, some theatres even project the analogue way. But Super8? It was doubtful quality even when there was nothing better around, except larger formats. Any modern videocam should be able to outperform even present-day emulsions. I cannot see how this could sell, but who knows, maybe they are on to something. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted January 7, 2016 Share #5 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Hi Jaap, I'll go there to watch this film at Paris Gaumont Champs Elysées Marignan http://www.in70mm.com/news/2016/hateful_8/index.htm Happy New Year to you and your family Best Henry Edited January 7, 2016 by Doc Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 7, 2016 Share #6 Posted January 7, 2016 I wonder why an analog film camera needs USB and Firewire ports. Maybe the ability to record time codes on the magnetic track alongside the sound? Or just for USB/FW microphones? Does have two 2-3mm jacks on the back as well (headphones plus another mike?) Hmm ..... on further review, also has SD card slot, and in some versions a flip-out viewing screen. Must have a beam-splitter with the capability to simultaneously/alternatively shoot digital video (daily rushes?) as well? Not aimed at hobbyists and consumer use (although I'm sure they will be able to get them): "....an initiative aimed at putting Super 8 cameras into the hands of a new generation of filmmakers as well as meeting the needs of top directors, indie filmmakers and others who appreciate the art and craft of filmmaking." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2016 Share #7 Posted January 7, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wouldn't professionals wanting to use film go for the quality of a larger format - or, if small size gear is required stick to digital? Super 8 was always an amateur format. Even my student film club used 16 mm. Well, I suppose Kodak knows their own target market best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted January 7, 2016 Share #8 Posted January 7, 2016 With the massive publicity doing the rounds that the new Star Wars film is shot on film I can imagine a big audience for this camera. It won't only be nostalgic amateurs but a whole raft of new users, and amongst those I think the camera will be a big hit in film schools around the world, an ideal tool to develop planning skills and shooting discipline. Steve 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 7, 2016 Share #9 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Wouldn't pro still photographers only go for the quality of medium format film or larger? But I expect the real issue is, Hollywood needs a farm team. They need new blood coming in all the time that is reasonably familiar with, and technically competent using/shooting/handling, film. And if one is doing student work to train for that farm team, one needs gear and materials a student can afford - for dozens of "unpaid" college class projects. Gotta start somewhere. I haven't a clue how dental students acquire experience - but in photo/cine school, you shoot as much film as a pro, with zero clients paying the bills. So they can't "train on" 70mm or 35mm - not unless daddy is a millionaire. When I was doing my photo degrees in college, the film-production students in the next classroom/studio were burning through a couple of hundred feet of film a week (each). For 4 years (and yes, they eventually moved up to 16mm before they were done). Edited January 7, 2016 by adan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2016 Share #10 Posted January 7, 2016 Hi Jaap, I'll go there to watch this film at Paris Gaumont Champs Elysées Marignan http://www.in70mm.com/news/2016/hateful_8/index.htm Happy New Year to you and your family Best Henry The same to yours Yes, Pathé Rotterdam is showing the film version as well. They had to borrow the projector from the Film Museum... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lleo Posted January 7, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Everything will be back to film, you'll see Aren't some companies producing a tape which will replace cds? Or anyways it's been projected, and it'll be on the market in the next future. Edited January 7, 2016 by lleo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 7, 2016 Share #12 Posted January 7, 2016 Interesting - I think it's aimed at the Lomography crowd and will probably be a hit for a while at least! I saw someone buying a s/h super8 camera the other day - there are still enthusiast users out there. It's a tiny niche but a great one for Kodak to target. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 7, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2016 adan, on 07 Jan 2016 - 09:22, said:adan, on 07 Jan 2016 - 09:22, said: Wouldn't pro still photographers only go for the quality of medium format film or larger? But I expect the real issue is, Hollywood needs a farm team. They need new blood coming in all the time that is reasonably familiar with, and technically competent using/shooting/handling, film. And if one is doing student work to train for that farm team, one needs gear and materials a student can afford - for dozens of "unpaid" college class projects. Gotta start somewhere. I haven't a clue how dental students acquire experience - but in photo/cine school, you shoot as much film as a pro, with zero clients paying the bills. So they can't "train on" 70mm or 35mm - not unless daddy is a millionaire. When I was doing my photo degrees in college, the film-production students in the next classroom/studio were burning through a couple of hundred feet of film a week (each). For 4 years (and yes, they eventually moved up to 16mm before they were done). Probably the economics work differently in your educational system, over here the schools are state-subsidized and the cost of shooting materials would be a relatively minor aspect compared to bureaucratic overheads (the same in health services I fear ). However, would this system: shoot (admittedly) film, send it in and download the result from the Cloud to work on digitally be sufficiently educational? After all, the closest the student would come to handling film would be loading and unloading the cassette. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 7, 2016 Share #14 Posted January 7, 2016 I wouldn't worry about it Jaap, you aren't the target market. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 7, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 7, 2016 As a film - as in the medium - enthusiast I think it's fantastic to see Kodak releasing a product like this. Anything that increases film use (and production) has to be a good thing, and it's nice to be talking about Kodak in terms of new products again! I've had another thought about potential for this - the amount of vloggers and You Tube 'producers' out there is huge and here's a way for some to differentiate themselves. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted January 7, 2016 Share #16 Posted January 7, 2016 A new take on Eastman's original slogan "You push the button, we do the rest." ! However judging by the specification released so far, relative pricing is going to be in a different ball-park. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted January 7, 2016 Share #17 Posted January 7, 2016 I've read that the cost of 50ft of film developed and scanned will be in the $50-75 area which does't sound bad at all (assuming it also includes the film itself). How that translates to UK pricing (assuming that the service is available internationally) remains to be seen. The cameras (presumably made in China and not built to Leicina quality) are reported to have a target price of around $750. Interesting and welcome development from Kodak. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted January 7, 2016 Share #18 Posted January 7, 2016 The same to yours Yes, Pathé Rotterdam is showing the film version as well. They had to borrow the projector from the Film Museum... Thanks Jaap, I didn't know this. Would you know at which of the two locations? Br Philip Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted January 7, 2016 Share #19 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) It is all vapor. So far only prototypes have been shown. But it gets worse. After sending in the film the images are digitized and made available via download. Is anyone going to invest in film editing (splicing, cement, viewers...) so that they can actually use the film, or are they going to settle for the digitized media which, I believe will be entirely unsatisfactory to a film maven? ...and it is expensive. In the end it is more expensive for film editors than buying a vintage 16mm camera and eliminating the digitization unless it becomes popular in which case it might pay for itself. Another big f*uck-up by Kodak. It is likely thtat the announcement is just a kite being flown by Charlie Brown. . Edited January 7, 2016 by pico Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 7, 2016 Share #20 Posted January 7, 2016 It is all vapor. So far only prototypes have been shown. But it gets worse. After sending in the film the images are digitized and made available via download. Is anyone going to invest in film editing (splicing, cement, viewers...) so that they can actually use the film, or are they going to settle for the digitized media which, I believe will be entirely unsatisfactory to a film maven? ...and it is expensive. In the end it is more expensive for film editors than buying a vintage 16mm camera and eliminating the digitization unless it becomes popular in which case it might pay for itself. Another big f*uck-up by Kodak. Let us hope the announcement is just a kite being flown by Charlie Brown. . Before the usual piling-in of shrill, dramatic negativity, how about checking the service - you get the film back and can choose to also have it digitized. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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