Hayek Posted January 6, 2016 Share #1 Posted January 6, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Been away for Christmas so perhaps I missed the news but does anyone know whether the upgraded sensor is available yet? I remember reading that January 2016 was their target date. Secondly, if you had the option of foregoing the wait for the new sensor and swap for an M246 for about €3000/£2200, would you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wattsy Posted January 6, 2016 Share #2 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Secondly, if you had the option of foregoing the wait for the new sensor and swap for an M246 for about €3000/£2200, would you? I wouldn't, no. (If you are minded to do the 'upgrade', bear in mind that some dealers are now discounting the M246 – one UK authorised dealer has stock at £4,990 – and this may alter the attractiveness of the offer.) Edited January 6, 2016 by wattsy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 7, 2016 Share #3 Posted January 7, 2016 Well, I've heard that the MM v.1 aren't re-sellable unless the sensor has been examined and certified by Leica or replaced altogether. I don't; recall any announcement that the monochrome version of the sensor is even available. Not sure it's such a bad deal, other than the M246 EVF is barely usable and the added heft does differentiate it. The MM v.1 after all is a circa 2008 device with 2005 guts inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2016 Share #4 Posted January 9, 2016 I had my MM1 sensor replaced last August and although the replacement one is exactly the same as the failed sensor that doesn't worry me at all because Leica guarantees it for the life of the camera, so if it does corrode again they'll replace it once more. By then it would be the "new improved" replacement sensor. I believe the new sensor is available for the MM1 now, but I am not certain. I was told by Leica back in August that the newer one was under testing at that time and would be available by year's end, I elected not to wait for it. So, that's all ok by me. I didn't want the M246, I have a M240 and whilst it's a very good piece of gear I find myself not liking it's extra bulk as compared to the MM1/M9 cameras. The cost of upgrading was also a deterrent, coupled with the fact that I do prefer the "look" of the CCD in B&W, and also the "look" of B&W out of the M240 isn't that far off of the "look" of the B&W from the M246. Subjective I know….. If you want "real" B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey James Posted January 18, 2016 Share #5 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I have been told by my reliable dealer that the new sensor is not yet ready. I have a problem in that my MM has developed some dead pixels. This can be remapped fairly quickly but then the sensor could go, and I simply can't let the camera out of my hands for that amount of time. I am not tempted by the 246, because I don't need the bells and whistles, or the bulk, or the hefty price tag. I notice that Jaap prefers the files from the MM to the 246, which simply confirms my prejudices. Edited January 18, 2016 by Geoffrey James Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 18, 2016 Share #6 Posted January 18, 2016 The bulk is identical between the MM1 and MM2... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyck Posted January 18, 2016 Share #7 Posted January 18, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi All My first post! My MM developed the dreaded corroded sensor early last summer. I contacted Leica Mayfair and was told it will be added to the list. I heard approximately 10 days ago that Wetzlar were ready to receive my camera. It is being collected tomorrow (DHL, arranged by Leica) to have its sensor replaced. I have been told that it will returned in two weeks. Most importantly I asked if the sensor will be replaced with the new version. This was the reply... "Yes, the sensor which is now being used does now have the new coating." 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmolinski Posted January 18, 2016 Share #8 Posted January 18, 2016 Wyck, pls share your experience with the new sensor. I am pretty curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyck Posted January 19, 2016 Share #9 Posted January 19, 2016 As soon as it's back I will. DHL have just collected it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHewee Posted January 20, 2016 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks Wyck. Looking forward to your feedback. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 21, 2016 Share #11 Posted January 21, 2016 Just curious how you'll be able to determine whether the replacement sensor is indeed the updated version? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyck Posted January 21, 2016 Share #12 Posted January 21, 2016 Hi James I asked Leica prior to sending my camera. They told me in writing it was going to be replaced with the sensor with the new coating so I have to assume that this is the case. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 21, 2016 Share #13 Posted January 21, 2016 Just curious how you'll be able to determine whether the replacement sensor is indeed the updated version? The colour profile will be different :D 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramosa Posted January 24, 2016 Share #14 Posted January 24, 2016 Please let us know how it goes in terms of this replacement. Hi James I asked Leica prior to sending my camera. They told me in writing it was going to be replaced with the sensor with the new coating so I have to assume that this is the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHewee Posted January 25, 2016 Share #15 Posted January 25, 2016 I have been in touch with Leica who have put me on the waiting list for the sensor replacement... This is apparently to ensure that turnaround times are kept to a minimum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIago Posted January 27, 2016 Share #16 Posted January 27, 2016 Just curious how you'll be able to determine whether the replacement sensor is indeed the updated version? Different firmware version, maybe? That's the case with my M9 and it's new sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBHewee Posted January 28, 2016 Share #17 Posted January 28, 2016 I've now had an email from Leica confirming collection the week of February 18, and saying turnaround should be around 10 days... The experience so far has been nothing short of excellent with their CS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted February 2, 2016 Share #18 Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Just did an email exchange with the service manager at Leica NJ. He added my Monochrom to the service queue and said it would be approximately 4 months until my turn came up due to parts deliveries. Said they were using the sensor with the new coatings. So I'll send it in when they are ready to work on it. Edited February 2, 2016 by Luke_Miller 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted February 2, 2016 Share #19 Posted February 2, 2016 Luke, I got the same info (news sensor, four month wait) a few weeks ago. I sent my Monochrom in anyway, I'm also having a lens calibrated and figured it's easier just have the lot of them together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaryink Posted February 5, 2016 Share #20 Posted February 5, 2016 I sent my monochrom in through the dealer for a sensor replacement. First, the dealer accused me of trying to clean the sensor with something abrasive and ruining the sensor. I assured him I had vever cleaned it and no one else had access to the camera. He didn't believe me but sent it into Leica USA. They have agreed to replace the sensor due to corrosion. I just called the dealer again today (2/5/16) and was told that it will be six to nine month wait. I mean come on. With no loaner? I have six different Leicas but don't think I will purchase any more equipment with such poor and slow customer service. I use this camera as my daily go to kit and am very disappointed with the state of affairs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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