Padang Hill

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

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[A miller]

Hi Neil - Really love the composition here.  Having said this, I think your PP is overdone.  The composition is strong enough to stand on its own w/o the HDR.  The greens seem too luminent and there seem to be halos around the top edge of the mountain on the right. 

After shooting exclusively with film for the past year or so, and most recently mostly cityscapes, the digital processing of the type that your photo depicts strikes an unpleasing cord with me.  It could be that I am too wedded to the traditional film look and am not in the mainstream. So please take my comments for what they are worth.   

One more thing, you might consider bringing down the highlights in the water ont he bottom of the image in order to darken the water and make the fish appear a bit more prominent (not sure whether you used a polarizing filter, but it doesn't look like it and it could be useful to bring out the fish, which are a critical element of interest in your image.) 

 

All the best,

Adam

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[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Hi Adam

This is my third attempt at trying to make a picture out of this shot and agree 100% that it is way over done............I think I ran 6 color efex presets over it :(

Unfortunately I don't have a polarizer for my 82mm lens but will order one tonight so that I will have it for when I get home.

Thanks for pointing out what I kind of already know...............

Cheers

Neil

[Iduna]

Neil,

in spite of all criticism ( I agree with Adam), I like the potential of this scenery. And those shots help to find out what will improve exposure in those situations. A polarizer help but only works best in a 90 degree angle to the light. A ND filter would have helped to get the sky right above the forest.

 

The composition is lovely, the Kois are adding a lovely element here, the boats make one dream to float.

[stuny]

Very nice.

[platypus]

This is probably my fav. image from you that I have so far seen on the Forum. The fish make the shot magical.

To be truthful it is suffering from too much heavy attention in the pp department...the virulent green grass is

perhaps the worst offender, and (as Adam noted) the fish should be more clearly visible...but that is all fixable

and this is probably a great shot for you to hone your pp skills on, it is certainly worth the effort. 

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[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Neil,

in spite of all criticism ( I agree with Adam), I like the potential of this scenery. And those shots help to find out what will improve exposure in those situations. A polarizer help but only works best in a 90 degree angle to the light. A ND filter would have helped to get the sky right above the forest.

 

The composition is lovely, the Kois are adding a lovely element here, the boats make one dream to float.

Iduna

I'm cool with the critizism I hated the picture off the get go but stuck with it as i was bored and it was the only picture that was on my laptop as I forgot my externel harddrive.

Thanks for your feedback

[A miller]

Neil - it is a testament to you that you can absorb constructive feedback and use it to sharpen your skills. You've demonstrated this numerous times.

You have a great eye and also are good to find the right lightening conditions.

Am I impressed by the S? No, I can't say so. This phot would have been a slam dunk all the way to the bank if then with a Hasselblad, Alpa or Contax 645 with Kodak Ektar or even portra 160.

I know you don't want to hear this but I will anyway encourage you to look into film. The digitization of the MF negatives is much easier than you probably think.

I have some NYC cityscapes on my Flickr page that are all with MF film in case your are interested in a reference point. (No, I a. Not trying to lure you there or otherwise get attention to myself - I could give a f__)

[Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS]

Neil - it is a testament to you that you can absorb constructive feedback and use it to sharpen your skills. You've demonstrated this numerous times.

You have a great eye and also are good to find the right lightening conditions.

Am I impressed by the S? No, I can't say so. This phot would have been a slam dunk all the way to the bank if then with a Hasselblad, Alpa or Contax 645 with Kodak Ektar or even portra 160.

I know you don't want to hear this but I will anyway encourage you to look into film. The digitization of the MF negatives is much easier than you probably think.

I have some NYC cityscapes on my Flickr page that are all with MF film in case your are interested in a reference point. (No, I a. Not trying to lure you there or otherwise get attention to myself - I could give a f__)

Adam

I enjoyed looking at your stuff in your Flicker account...............were those cityscapes taken with a film camera.................if so I will get one when I get home, I need something to get me interested again in this kind of street photography environment ??

[A miller]

Neil - yes, the gear and film used should be noted under each photo. Any questions, just shout

[EoinC]

Neil - yes, the gear and film used should be noted under each photo. Any questions, just shout

Nice work, Adam. The M-A / 28mm street shots are stunning.

 

I agree with the other comments, Neil - Good composition, but the saturation and contrast / structure I find to be distracting. Maybe try going back to the original shot and see what you can do without Color Efex. The only CE filter I ever use is the darken / lighten centre which, if used in tiny amounts, can be a quick way of almost invisible localised vignetting - Still easy to overdo, though. Have you tried PP'ing this photo as B&W, either using the colour channels in Lightroom, or running through Silver Efex? As Adam says, darkening the foreground will make the fish more prominent, so that the viewer sees them first, then discovers the environment behind.

 

Keep up the good work (and film is very enjoyable, particularly since it doesn't provide instant results).