the warrior Posted September 1, 2015 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) MP a la carte is Brass or Zinc ??Please, I need to know if my camera MP dull black, not shiny black paint, is of brass or zinc, up and down.No number is 3799238Please anyone knows ??.Very friendly to respond. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Hi the warrior, Take a look here MP "a la carte" is brass or is zinc ???. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Matlock Posted September 1, 2015 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2015 MP a la carte is Brass or Zinc ?? Please, I need to know if my camera MP dull black, not shiny black paint, is of brass or zinc, up and down. No number is 3799238 Please anyone knows ??. Very friendly to respond. Brass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted September 1, 2015 You may tell me how I knew, I think it is zinc, that tells me the dealer in Spain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted September 1, 2015 Share #4 Posted September 1, 2015 The MP top plate is brass not zinc. Zinc was phased out with the later M6TTL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2015 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2015 It's made of brass. Your Spanish dealer is wrong. If it's a dull matte black color then it's a black chrome finish. If it's a shiny black color then it's black paint finish. Both finishes are made of brass. Don't believe me? Use sandpaper and find out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted September 1, 2015 Sorry but it seems that you speak from the heart but do not know well.I sanded and white, is zinc.Leica and not going to disappoint me more.Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2015 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I sanded and white, is zinc. Show us pictures or it didn't happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted September 1, 2015 Share #8 Posted September 1, 2015 Just the weight of it tells you it is a heavy alloy (brass) or a light metal like zinc, magnesium or aluminium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) My heart did not want to believe the truth. MY Spanish dealer is wrong. ?? jajaja ....... yes yes yes .................. Sorry DavidKKHansen I Don't believe you. Now I wake, you can wake up or not is your choice, no longer makes Leica except brass MP BP else is shiny silver - aluminum, zinc, equals, is shit to me.I no longer believe in Leica, the brass died with the M9-P.I'll sell my MMonochrom and my MP zinc or aluminum.I do not want to know that this is in my equipment, I pay good money for brass rather than aluminum or zinc.Good luck with your dreams, friends. MMonochrom Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP MP Edited September 2, 2015 by the warrior Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! MP MP ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249576-mp-a-la-carte-is-brass-or-is-zinc/?do=findComment&comment=2880846'>More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted September 2, 2015 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2015 Cool thread. Is this MP a black chrome, as in an a la carte? I'd bet what you're seeing is a surface applied to the brass so as to properly accept whatever constitutes black chrome. Rather than wasting your time here why not contact Leica? As my Philosophy professor was fond of saying 'always go to the primary material'. And go take some pictures, s-a 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenMacPhoto Posted September 2, 2015 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2015 Just because it is shinny under the black does not mean it's zinc. The M4-2 is made from brass, but since it has the matte black anodizing, when worn down it shows silver. The silver can be stripped down too, where you'll see brass. I wouldn't do that to your MP though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2015 Nice pictures of your MP and Monochrome. Both those cameras have the black chrome finish. You get it by starting with brass as the base material and then proceed to plate it with other metals to achieve a matte black finish. This finish is very durable towards wear and tear. If you use those cameras for a very long time, eventually you will start to see a golden brass showing. Leica used a zinc top plate only for the M6 and M4-P. This was done because it was cheaper to make and at that time Leica was in a bit of financial trouble. The zinc top plate looks similar to the modern black chrome finish, but they are not the same. If your dealer thinks otherwise, then he hasn't done his homework properly. If you don't believe me, then sell me your MP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted September 2, 2015 Oh my dear Friend DavidKKHansen, You think I'm at home without pictures? HahahaLook here please: https://www.flickr.com/photos/108295717@N08/ My Mp today go to dealer and I look for a MP BP new, twoo MP´s, my MMonochrom is in the air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted September 2, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2015 Oh my dear Friend DavidKKHansen, You think I'm at home without pictures? Hahaha Look here please: https://www.flickr.com/photos/108295717@N08/ My Mp today go to dealer and I look for a MP BP new, twoo MP´s, my MMonochrom is in the air. But after all that. THE MP TOP PLATE IS STILL BRASS! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 2, 2015 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I do not want to know that this is in my equipment, I pay good money for brass rather than aluminum or zinc. If you had wanted brass to show through you should have bough a black paint camera, not a black chrome camera. Whether the black chrome plating is made over a zinc base or a brass base the first layer of plating is a layer of silver nickel, this is the 'undercoat' and helps the top chrome layer adhere, and will show through when the top black layer wears through. But all modern Leica M type cameras (film or digital) are brass without any exceptions. I recommend this thread to anybody who needs a laugh. Steve Edited September 2, 2015 by 250swb 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted September 2, 2015 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2015 Or a cry? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2015 My Mp today go to dealer and I look for a MP BP new, twoo MP´s, my MMonochrom is in the air. Let me make sure I understand correctly: You are going to go back to the very dealer who claims it's a zinc top plate and sell him your camera for less than what you paid for it??? In that case, a fool and his money (cameras) are soon parted... Remember to sell him your Noctilux as well, because the outer barrel is made of aluminum alloy. Would hate for your fingers to touch anything but the most purest German/Portuguese brass! I recommend this thread to anybody who needs a laugh. Indeed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the warrior Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) all sorted. A day of wrath to be. Certainly my photos will not be better or worse by a chamber of zinc. Gracias Bruno, ... matlock?. Edited September 2, 2015 by the warrior Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dot-me-not Posted September 3, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Leica used a zinc top plate only for the M6 and M4-P. Early M4-Ps had a brass plate. Edited September 3, 2015 by dot-me-not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Early M4-Ps had a brass plate. Correct. Also all M6 TTL's were with zinc top plates. Except some of the last batches, which were made of brass. As a general rule, one can assume that M4-P's and M6 TTL's are with zinc top plates. The point I was trying to get across to the OP was that there was no way that his MP (and Monochrome) were made of zinc... Edited September 3, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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