Maurice van Cleef Posted August 21, 2015 Share #1 Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear forum members, I'm looking for more information on serial numbers of Leica Summilux 50mm V2 black paint (with a scalloped focussing ring)-what was the last serial number with black paint in the V2 range? Recently i've acquired such a lens-with serial number 222057X. The distance scale in feet is in yellow. The information in leica-camera forum isn't accurate enough...(it says it's a chrome, non scalopped lens...) A picture of the lens is below. Thanks! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 21, 2015 by Maurice van Cleef Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249180-leica-summilux-50mm-v2-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=2874954'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Maurice van Cleef, Take a look here Leica Summilux 50mm V2 black paint. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
luigi bertolotti Posted August 21, 2015 Share #2 Posted August 21, 2015 Are you sure that is a black PAINT and not a black anodized finishing ? Anyway, is very difficult to set a final serial number for this variant, they are intermixed in the many production batches and I don't remember to have read this info in the various books (Lager, Rogliatti, Van Hasbroek). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 21, 2015 Share #3 Posted August 21, 2015 Does that lens shade work for you? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice van Cleef Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Luigi, Thanks for your answer-I'm not 100% sure(and I don't know how to be certain about that)-but a well known seller on eBay is selling a same lens, 25 pieces up in serialnumber, as: "last blaclkpaint batch"...(item is here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Leica-Summilux-M-50mm-f-1-4-leitz-black-paint-last-batch-Yellow-Scale-/281303051131 ) I posted this question here because I couldn't find an answer in my books.... Maurice Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice van Cleef Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Pico-the shade works-but it blocks a part of the viewfinder on my M3. The world famouz ken rockwell has some shots where you can see there difference between the 12586 and the XOOIM/12521. The 12586 is a lot better-but the XOOIM looks cooler.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted August 21, 2015 Share #6 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Luigi, Thanks for your answer-I'm not 100% sure(and I don't know how to be certain about that)-but a well known seller on eBay is selling a same lens, 25 pieces up in serialnumber, as: "last blaclkpaint batch"...(item is here:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Leica-Summilux-M-50mm-f-1-4-leitz-black-paint-last-batch-Yellow-Scale-/281303051131 ) I posted this question here because I couldn't find an answer in my books.... Maurice Its clear on the Ebay one that it's paint (bubbles and chip) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 21, 2015 Share #7 Posted August 21, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Maurice, Welcome to the Forum, It is most likely a Version 2, 50mm Summilux optical unit in a Version 1, black lacquered brass focusing mount. Best Regards, Michael 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice van Cleef Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Michael, Thanks for your thoughts! How rare is this version?/how many were produced? Were they produced on order? Maurice Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 21, 2015 Share #9 Posted August 21, 2015 Hello Maurice, The second optical version 50mm Summilux in a brass first mechanical version focusing mount was not produced in large numbers. Black paint or black lacquer versions of brass focusing mount lenses were generally produced in lower numbers than the chrome plated brass versions. Black anodized aluminium (on the outside) focusing mounts which replaced the bright chrome plated brass predecessors became the standard for many focal lengths at around the time your lens was produced. You can find out quite a bit about your lens & many others by checking the "wiki" at the top of this page. The fact that there is a "wiki" should not stop you from asking questions here. Best Regards, Michael 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice van Cleef Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted August 21, 2015 Hi Michael, Of course I checked the forum wiki-but there are some deviation from the ones mentioned in the forum wiki-so that's why I started this thread. The deviations are: *Diafragm rign isn't fine knurled. *Distance scale is in yellow-instead of red. Kind regards-Maurice Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted August 21, 2015 Share #11 Posted August 21, 2015 Hello Maurice, The "wiki" above is a very valuable source of information. Please keep in mind that it does have some unclear aspects as well as some imperfections. Like the rest of the World. On top of that Leitz/Leica have a longstanding history of anamolys as well as omissions in their record keeping. As do most entities. Having said that: I would still use the "wiki" above as a first go-to as well as a source to check back with after researching something. You might try thinking of research as some kind of jigsaw puzzle. The general shift from scalloped & knurled to just knurled for many lenses took place around the time your lens was built. Bright chrome lenses were generally marked with a combination of black & red. Earlier black lenses (both reflex & rangefinder) were often a combination of white & red. Later most black lenses were changed to a combination of white & yellow. In some black lenses of certain focal lengths you find: Scalloped & knurled white & red. Scalloped & knurled white & yellow. Knurled only white & yellow. Best Regards, Michael 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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