New Leica Noctilux lens rumored

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Interesting new lens rumor:

http://leicarumors.com/2015/06/24/new-leica-noctilux-lens-rumored.aspx/

[SirPiet]

read that as well, i hope it is true. a 35mm f/0.95 would be a nice addition to my set of T lenses. Now I'd better work hard to save some serious $$$ for it 

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[Guest VVJ]

I am not sure whether I would be in the market, I guess it depends on the price, it would be a nice sign of commitment to the T and the T-mount in general though...

[bencoyote]

It certainly would make sense given that 18-56mm is f/5.0 at 35mm. For whatever reason, I find 50mm's FOV much easier to compose for and while the 23mm is great for the street shooter types who prefer a 35mm's FOV, 50mm is the standard and it is a notable weak point in the T's lens set.

Edited June 28, 2015 by bencoyote

[julian m]

I agree, I mostly shot at 50mm equivalent with my m43 cameras. 50mm-equivalent prime is the lens I'm waiting for for the T.

 

Going to be interesting to see pricing if it's really a Noctilux though!

[AndreasAM]

Not only the price is important. Is this upcoming lens announcement an upbeat to a second development phase of T. The new primes should be closely related to the version of the 28-lens from the Q, with manual focusing and Aperture rings and (possible) macro settings provided. 

 

And will the lenses be for a APS-c sensor or FF? Taking a Q for a next evolution of the T/Q.

 

Who knows, but the future of the T-line will be in the balance.

Edited June 28, 2015 by AndrewAM

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The new primes should be closely related to the version of the 28-lens from the Q, with manual focusing and Aperture rings and (possible) macro settings provided. 

 

 

That would represent a complete change in direction in terms of the T design concept though (aperture rings). Very unlikely - I'd be amazed if Leica produced a specialist lens like a Noctilux for the T. 

[AndreasAM]

That would represent a complete change in direction in terms of the T design concept though (aperture rings). Very unlikely - I'd be amazed if Leica produced a specialist lens like a Noctilux for the T. 

 

Well, sofar I find the manual focusing capabilities of the 23 mm. Cron, subpar. The AF is okay, image quality is very good, a joy to shoot with, in this mode. There is however no DOF- scale on the lens, focusing ring in MF is very coarse, stif and akward in a loop etc.

Might as well hope for everything that could be approved in the new lenses.The 28 mm lens on the Q looks to me the future quality norm for the non-RF Leica camera's, so why not improve the system while it is still in its primary stages!

This wil give us ISO or Exp. Comp. for adjustments in A-mode on the right and focusmode on the left adjustment ring.

 

Leica can improve on earlier flawed design decisions with the T, just like Fuji did with its lensdesign for the X's. There is no shame in that.

 

And weatherproofing please. As I have stated before I would like to buy lenses for the future and only once. Second generaton body (if one will be forthcoming sometime) needs this also.

[bencoyote]

Well, sofar I find the manual focusing capabilities of the 23 mm. Cron, subpar. The AF is okay, image quality is very good, a joy to shoot with, in this mode. There is however no DOF- scale on the lens, focusing ring in MF is very coarse, stif and akward in a loop etc.

Might as well hope for everything that could be approved in the new lenses.The 28 mm lens on the Q looks to me the future quality norm for the non-RF Leica camera's, so why not improve the system while it is still in its primary stages!

This wil give us ISO or Exp. Comp. for adjustments in A-mode on the right and focusmode on the left adjustment ring.

 

Leica can improve on earlier flawed design decisions with the T, just like Fuji did with its lensdesign for the X's. There is no shame in that.

 

And weatherproofing please. As I have stated before I would like to buy lenses for the future and only once. Second generaton body (if one will be forthcoming sometime) needs this also.

 

I 100% agree with you on this. 

 

Realistically though, I do think that we will ultimately get generations of lenses like they have had with the M e.g. How many versions of the 50mm Summicron-M have their been?

[robert blu]

For sure interesting, being myself on the fence, T or not T a sign of commitment on this mount would be welcome! More primes for this mount please. Probably the price of a T-35-Nocti even for an APS sensor hmmm, this is a different story 

robert

[AndreasAM]

I'd be amazed if Leica produced a specialist lens like a Noctilux for the T. 

I agree with you on that. Although it is not impossible. Just look at what there has been achieved in the M4/3's field.

But if Leica want to counter Fuji for that matter and bring the T on par and keep the T users for the foreseeable future, they must bring quality lenses, so at least a Summilux 35 mm. (50 mm. equivalent) and eventually a Lux 35 mm. eq, thus a new 23 mm.

And remember a Summilux might bring the goodies considering the amount of light on your sensor, it is still (only?!) 1.8 in DOF-quality. So a Noctilux lens would bring only that DOF, that a Summilux brings with an M-lens. But that would be a stretch I think.

 

For me personally a Noctilux would bring no obvious advantages, it would be too big, too expensive and with the reasonable ISO-capabilities of the T, not really that big of an advantage in low light.

So a 35 mm. T-Summilux or Summicron (50 mm. eq), a 50 mm (APO-)Summicron (75 mm. eq), a 14/16 mm. Summicron WA (21/24  mm. eq) and, (why not) a macro lens (100 mm.eq) would fulfill my wishes eventually.

 

But, now I have seen the Q,  I am not ruling out the possibility of the merger of the T-mount and a  FF Q, in the end (of the year). That is, if the T is not selling wel enough. 

 

Hey, perhaps that is what I am hoping for secretly?!

Edited July 1, 2015 by AndrewAM

[robert blu]

A 35 lux i T mount would be for sure a good opportunity, I would say a need if Leica wants to push T sales. On the other side if you already have a 35 for the M maybe not so necessary, just thinking.

I agree with you about a WA 14/16 and or a macro, which would be necessary to develop the system.

Hopefully...

robert

PS: I'm planning to enter gradually in the system, if I decide, first step body, adaptor, visoflex and try to use my 35 for the M. Later buy the 23 and eventually...

Edited July 1, 2015 by robert blu

[AndreasAM]

On the other side if you already have a 35 for the M maybe not so necessary, just thinking.

 

For me entering the T-system, was for two reasons.

First, the option to have a high quality interchangeable lens camera system from Leica  with APS-C sensor, which doesn't break the bank ( I have used a Leica X1 since it was introduced and in a different live a Leica R6.2, Nikon F1) . The T-system is light, compact and has, in my view, an excellent UI which gives me the opportunity to take images in a simple, straight forward manner with excellent results, although in a very modern camera.

Secondly, there is the option to use other lenses (M, R). The R-lenses I use are the longer ones ; macro 2.8/100 APO, 3.4/180 APO-Telyt, even the exotic MR-telyt 8/500 recently). These are easier to use on the T with the excellent EVF, with perhaps better results then on a M-camera for now. 

 

Although I venture in the M-lenses ( VM 12 mm. and ZM 50 mm.), they are filling the gap for the moment. Buying Leica M-lenses for the T is a bit silly, unless you want a M in the long run. It is an overinvestment;  expensive FF- lenses for the use on a APS-C camera. The manual focusing with the R and M-lenses (focusing wide open, stop down, shoot) is only suitable for the more static subjects in nature and (urban) architecture, street and some portraits.

 

No connection between MF-lens and camera, tends to slow you down. Which is a good thing generally and although I love it for the right subject, It stops me however doing different types of photography. When things move, it gets annoying. I don't like zooms, they make you lazy. Zone focusing with the only prime, T-Cron  23 mm. is impossible, to say the least. The AF system of the T is okay, but limited,

As I stated in my previous contribution in this thread, unless Leica comes really soon with the prime lenses, with the quality and options of the Q-lens, to make the T a real system camera,  it looks that I have to count my options. 

 

I love the T, it's potential in the system, the quality and looks. But they have to come up with the quality goods fast, I am getting impatient, after more than a year!!

Edited July 1, 2015 by AndrewAM

[robert blu]

I agree with your view Andrew, a Leica ape-c with interchangeable lenses is the reason for me to buy the T. Interesting you had an x1 which I still us but think the T should make the same use quicker.

 

More it has interchangeable lenses. In my opinion the 23 it the way to go for this camera. I say think to use an M lens (35 or 50) because I already have them for my M7 and I would use for some portraits where I need a longer than 23/35 EQ focal length.

 

Again a native T 35 (less expensive than one eye!) would be veri interesting...

 

Ideal would be to rent the camera and use it a couple of days but this is not possible where I live. Just collecting informations by now...

robert

[can-photo]

I really hope 35mm f/0.95 is still coming in 10 days!

[mjh]

I really hope 35mm f/0.95 is still coming in 10 days!

Nope.

[can-photo]

Nope.

 

Any more insights? So nothing is going to come out?

[mjh]

I suppose there will be something (there are lenses on the roadmap still to be announced) but not a Noctilux.

[SirPiet]

well we will see something this evening i guess. Summilux-TL 35?

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[bencoyote]

I'm crossing my fingers that La Vida Leica got it right http://lavidaleica.com/content/leica-sl-type-601-coming-october#updates and that there's a new Summilux-TL 35mm ASPH Macro-Elmarit-TL 60mm ASPH Which are full frame lenses which might mean that they will be more expensive but future proof.

 

Mounting up that 90-280 on the T might be unwieldy but kind of fun and gets us into wildlife photography land.