http200 Posted May 13, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 13, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just bought a 35mm Summicron pre-asph 7-element (aka Bokeh king), but I prefer a round hood. Some sellers claims the 12504 hood compatible with this lens and some claims not, I'm so confused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted May 14, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Welcome to the forum . The round metal hood # 12504 is indeed compatible with the Summicron 35/2 pre-asph # 11310 (aka v4 or 7 elements) but it is less efficient as a shade than plastic rectangular hoods # 12524 or 12526. Edited May 14, 2015 by lct 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
http200 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted May 14, 2015 Thank you so much for your answer lct, could you please tell me what did you mean by "less efficient"? Did you mean the hood may affect optical performance or the hood is too loose for the lens? Thank you again!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 14, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 14, 2015 As nice as it can be, the 12404 hood is too slim to protect the lens against flare significantly. This can be a problem with the 35/2 v4 because it is more prone to flare than current designs. Same issue with the Summilux 35/1.4 pre-asph BTW. But there is no alternative Leica hood for the latter while the 12524 and 12526 rectangular plastic hoods are excellent for the 35/2 v4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted May 14, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 14, 2015 I have and use the 12504 on my 3rd version 35 Cron for which it was the official one. I have also used it on my 4th version, as well as the 12585 35-50 vented shade. The latter is a bit deeper and probably shades better. I have not seen vignetting with it. That said I prefer the 12524 because it was the one designed for the lens. The rubber hood cap made for the Cron-asph fits over it albeit it's easily knocked off. With the other shades I have to remove the shade and cap the lens, because the finger tab prevents reversing them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
http200 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted May 14, 2015 As nice as it can be, the 12404 hood is too slim to protect the lens against flare significantly. This can be a problem with the 35/2 v4 because it is more prone to flare than current designs. Same issue with the Summilux 35/1.4 pre-asph BTW. But there is no alternative Leica hood for the latter while the 12524 and 12526 rectangular plastic hoods are excellent for the 35/2 v4. Thank you so much! I just ordered one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
http200 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted May 14, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have and use the 12504 on my 3rd version 35 Cron for which it was the official one. I have also used it on my 4th version, as well as the 12585 35-50 vented shade. The latter is a bit deeper and probably shades better. I have not seen vignetting with it. That said I prefer the 12524 because it was the one designed for the lens. The rubber hood cap made for the Cron-asph fits over it albeit it's easily knocked off. With the other shades I have to remove the shade and cap the lens, because the finger tab prevents reversing them. Thank you for sharing your opinion! I finally ordered a 12504, I really like the look of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 14, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 14, 2015 I have and use the 12504 on my 3rd version 35 Cron for which it was the official one. I have also used it on my 4th version, as well as the 12585 35-50 vented shade. The latter is a bit deeper and probably shades better. I have not seen vignetting with it. That said I prefer the 12524 because it was the one designed for the lens. The rubber hood cap made for the Cron-asph fits over it albeit it's easily knocked off. With the other shades I have to remove the shade and cap the lens, because the finger tab prevents reversing them. I seem to recall having seen vignetting with 12585 and 12585H hoods at f/16 but i'm not sure of that and i don't have the lens with me here to check it now so take what i say with a pinch of salt. As for the rectangular plastic 12524, it was indeed made for the 35/2 v4 and had no hood cap then if i remember well. The 12526 for 35/2 asph and 28/2.8 asph is almost identical to the 12524 but has more pronounced nubs so as to grip its hood cap 14043. Fits perfectly the 35/2 v4 as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stein K S Posted May 14, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 14, 2015 Hi The 12504 hood is for sure neat & nice! I use it on both the 35 Cron IV and also on the 28 Elmarit asph. However, I do also own the 12585 which "obviously" is more effective on the 35... (and I do not see any vignetting either...). Regards, Stein 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted May 14, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 14, 2015 I use the 12504 on my MkIV pre asph summicron, works fine for me, and is much neater than the platic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BjarniM Posted May 14, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) It's all been said above, almost. I have the Summicron-M 35 mm Version 4 with the 12504 hood, which is perfect. The hood is sitting tight and firm on the lens. I've tried to take the 12526 hood from my Summicron-M 35 mm ASPH and put it on the Version 4. The round and vented 12504 hood is much tighter on the Version 4 than the rectangular 12526 hood. Don't get nervous about flare with the 12504 hood. It's only in certain situations (and very rare as well) if direct sunlight hits the lens at a specific angle. I've had no problems at all, i use my hand as an extra/extended shade. Edited May 14, 2015 by BjarniM 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted October 31, 2015 Share #12 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) An oldish thread but I guess it's best not to create yet another regarding the vented hood. I'm after the Leica 12504 for my 35/f2 ASPH, but why is it so expensive - in the region of £100 (150 USD) second hand? I've read somewhere that some of the Chinese copies scratch the lens barrel during mounting/unmounting, so I wouldn't entertain one of those. Any alternatives I should consider? Edited October 31, 2015 by Steve Ricoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted October 31, 2015 Share #13 Posted October 31, 2015 The 12504 is expensive because it was made in smaller numbers and has been discontinued many years, also is fairly easily dented/distorted due to its thinness, so that has dwindled the numbers somewhat also. Alternatives are the plentiful 12585, 12585H (metal, identical) and 12538 (same design, but plastic, made for "tabbed" 50 Cron). I used all of them on my 35 Cron ASPH when I had one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 31, 2015 Share #14 Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) +1 and the regular 12526 which the best IMO. Here are the 12526 and the vented 12585 H. Both (and 12585) are more efficient than the 12504. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 31, 2015 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245006-does-12504-lens-hood-fit-the-35mm-summicron-7-element-bokeh-king/?do=findComment&comment=2918176'>More sharing options...
wattsy Posted November 1, 2015 Share #15 Posted November 1, 2015 I'm after the Leica 12504 for my 35/f2 ASPH, but why is it so expensive - in the region of £100 (150 USD) second hand? To be fair, the regular 12526 is also £120 new and at least £60 second hand. I'm with LCT, the 12526 is the better hood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 1, 2015 Share #16 Posted November 1, 2015 The 12524 is a valid alternative if you don't need a hood cap. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/245006-does-12504-lens-hood-fit-the-35mm-summicron-7-element-bokeh-king/?do=findComment&comment=2918355'>More sharing options...
NB23 Posted November 1, 2015 Share #17 Posted November 1, 2015 12526 is better because it can use a cap? Who uses caps? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted November 1, 2015 Share #18 Posted November 1, 2015 To be fair, the regular 12526 is also £120 new and at least £60 second hand. I'm with LCT, the 12526 is the better hood. Depends where you are. The 12526 including cap is $115 (75 UK pounds) @ B&H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted November 5, 2015 Share #19 Posted November 5, 2015 My 12504 lives on my MkIV Summicron, love it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 6, 2015 Share #20 Posted November 6, 2015 Square or rectangular shades cut stray light better than round. Any of the round models will work fine, but not cut so much stray light. If the lens is not properly assembled, the rectangular one may sit crooked slightly. DO NOT GRAB THE FRONT OF THE LENS TO MOUNT OR UNMOUNT. Use the back of the lens, The front is glued in place and will come lose if you abuse it. It is a fairly expensive repair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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