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[And here you might like to see where the slight improvements are to expected from the AA with its flatter disk]

 

summicron 50

You have to go to 100 asa to experience this opening but it is worth it.

 

 
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28 mm

 

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Who said wide angle lenses do not exhibit spurious and pleasing background blur ? 

My favorite subject :-)

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How about this?

 

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M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Ilford XP2

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Bokeh without spherical aberration is merely ugly OOF.

 

Look at how shapes such as lines are sharply doubled.

 

APO sucks.

My picture at the train station is with the 'lowly' Zeiss 28mm.  I use to stop it down to F4 but see here: it is pleasant wide open and relatively sharp too. 

Many modern lenses are high in numbers - resolution, favouring sharpness, sacrificing a smooth build up and creaminess; thistle lens creates nervousness at some aperture. 

 

I like Ellie's soft drawing with the Summarit 2.5.

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IMO the problem with wide lenses is that they naturally have a deeper DOF and they tend to be slower than standard lenses, long lenses are advantaged because even if they are slow the DOF tends to be thinner.

 

This doesn't mean that you can't use a 28 mm elmarit or a Orion to shoot something like:

 

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But its pretty hard and you have to calculate the distance because otherwise nothing will be bokeh'd.

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Cuthbert, first one is an example of photos I like very much. Focus on the ornament, but still being able to see the car and the building.

What car is it?

 

Yes, you can see the building because I had a slow (f2.8) lens, if I have a f1.5 or f1.2 I would have blurred everything out of the naked lady with your great displeausure! :D

 

I am not familiar with these cars, never seen before but now that you asked I made a quick internet search and found out they are called Nash Metropolitan, and the winged naked lady was indeed a stock item and not the imaginative result of a customisation as I thought:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_Metropolitan

 

Other pics of these cars by your request:

 

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Now let's go back IT:

 

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M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Ilford XP2

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Ellie, this is again a nice example. [i even thought your first lab picture was from a technical camera :-)  ]

In Cuthberts examples, specifically with the fir tree, the foreground blur is nice - but the background is in my opinion, unpleasing/nervous because of the battle between the disks. Ah, that balance, how hard it is to get it right.

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Ellie, this is again a nice example. [i even thought your first lab picture was from a technical camera :-)  ]

In Cuthberts examples, specifically with the fir tree, the foreground blur is nice - but the background is in my opinion, unpleasing/nervous because of the battle between the disks. Ah, that balance, how hard it is to get it right.

 

Which picture are you talking about? I can't see any disk in the last series...

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Ellie, this is again a nice example. [i even thought your first lab picture was from a technical camera :-)  ]

In Cuthberts examples, specifically with the fir tree, the foreground blur is nice - but the background is in my opinion, unpleasing/nervous because of the battle between the disks. Ah, that balance, how hard it is to get it right.

 

Thanks, I have been pleasantly surprised by the Summarit-M 50/2.5 when I got it in 2011/12. The reviews said it's a modern design and sharp.

 

I tried it on my M9 and didn't like the rendering at all, the colors were not what I was used to with my Elmarit 28/2.8. I like it better for b&w film.

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Found some pornographic bokeh from Xmas 2013 when I had a bokehattack in front of the winter market:

 

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That night I was blurring everything I could blur with my M3, Summicron DR and BW400CN.

 

This pic, more normal, was taken in daylight with Portra 160, by sheer luck I assume:

 

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What do you see?

 

BTW, it appears that Leica owners are less interested in bokeh than owners of other brands.

 

Not at all less interested. That's why we buy ridiculously expensive lenses like the Noctilux.

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"IMO the problem with wide lenses is that they naturally have a deeper DOF and they tend to be slower than standard lenses..."

 

 

 

 

That was once true, but Leica now have 21mm, 24mm, 28mm and 35mm lenses with f/1.4 maximum apertures.

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If you really want bokeh, buy a slr and a macro lens! [emoji39]

 

That will give you lots of OOF, but not necessarily nice bokeh. It's the bokeh quality that brings people to Leica lenses.

 

90 Elmarit

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