leicaphilia Posted April 18, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 18, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) http://leicaphilia.com/the-renaissance-of-film-grain-in-the-digital-age/ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarkP Posted April 18, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 18, 2015 Doc Henry will give you a big kiss for that 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 18, 2015 Share #3 Posted April 18, 2015 Thank you Mark for this moral support Hi Leicaphila , "yes" for real silver grain "No" for the "smoothed" pixels and grain imitation (by photo software).... but are still pixels Best regards to both of you Henry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Posted April 18, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 18, 2015 Ironic...I like today's films because they are virtually grainless. Usually the only "grain" that I find in film like the BW400CN, XP2, Delta400 and Portra 160 are stuff that scanning creates. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hiles Posted April 18, 2015 Share #5 Posted April 18, 2015 Grain can be beautiful - and film grain is unique. Personally, I am not looking for grain - I like smooth and creamy grays. This is why I use Ilford XP2 almost exclusively. And - the killer app - film leads to silver prints. Absolutely nothing like it. Absolutely nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks to look at this post on another thread : http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243794-the-photographers-who-refuse-to-abandon-traditional-film-cameras/?p=2800758 Best Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 19, 2015 Share #7 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Ironic...I like today's films because they are virtually grainless. Usually the only "grain" that I find in film like the BW400CN, XP2, Delta400 and Portra 160 are stuff that scanning creates. I so like BW400CN but a shame it's being discontinued. So I recently stocked up on 50 or so rolls which are now chilled out in my freezer. Edited April 19, 2015 by MarkP 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 19, 2015 Mark take Kodak TX400 it's similar same black of Kodak Cheers Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 19, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Mark take Kodak TX400 it's similar same black of Kodak Cheers Henry Thanks, I'll do so when I've exhausted my stock of BW400CN. Edited April 19, 2015 by MarkP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaphilia Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted April 19, 2015 Doc Henry will give you a big kiss for that Well, Doc is my type of guy, that's for certain. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #11 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Thanks, I'll do so when I've exhausted my stock of BW400CN. Mark ... and develop yourself it's better and cheaper , no scratchs It doesn't need much place , just change your bathroom becoming darkroom for 10 minutes and what pleasure to do yourself your film development Cheers Henry Edited April 19, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 19, 2015 Well, Doc is my type of guy, that's for certain. Thanks LP for your support ... but the "fight" will be long Cheers Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuthbert Posted April 19, 2015 Share #13 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I so like BW400CN but a shame it's being discontinued. So I recently stocked up on 50 or so rolls which are now chilled out in my freezer. Yes the day that film went out of stock was very sad for me, last year I took a pic of London bridge with it and a old Zenit 12XP, my then landlord liked it so much that asked to have an enlargement, I brought it to Asda and they stretched it as much as they could, when I returned to take the print the youngster who served me asked me how many megapixels my camera had! Mark take Kodak TX400 it's similar same black of Kodak Cheers Henry Doc I beg to differ, TX400 is a good film, fine grain too but it doesn't have the same pallettes of grey shades BW400CN had, it's more like Delta400 on the matter, BW400CN was critized because it wasn't considered "pushy" or "contrasty" enough at the time, while I like it because it had more "colour", for instance this is BW400CN through my Leica IIIb and an Industar 61: Edited April 19, 2015 by Cuthbert 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Yes the day that film went out of stock was very sad for me, last year I took a pic of London bridge with it and a old Zenit 12XP, my then landlord liked it so much that asked to have an enlargement, I brought it to Asda and they stretched it as much as they could, when I returned to take the print the youngster who served me asked me how many megapixels my camera had! Cuthbert, In scan with a Nikon Coolscan 5000 or V , I go up to 120 MP and for picture up around to 5600 x 3300 px , better or similar than my M9 Cheers Henry Edited April 19, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) CuthBert, and with TX400 look at this picture Our vineyard Chardonnet for Champagne Veuve Clicquot black and grey well balanced (any correction needed) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kodak TX 400 Mp 50 LA Scan Nik 5000 Best Henry Edited April 19, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Kodak TX 400 Mp 50 LA Scan Nik 5000 Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243803-do-we-shoot-film-now-for-the-grain/?do=findComment&comment=2800887'>More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 19, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 19, 2015 Yes the day that film went out of stock was very sad for me, last year I took a pic of London bridge with it and a old Zenit 12XP, my then landlord liked it so much that asked to have an enlargement, I brought it to Asda and they stretched it as much as they could, when I returned to take the print the youngster who served me asked me how many megapixels my camera had! Doc I beg to differ, TX400 is a good film, fine grain too but it doesn't have the same pallettes of grey shades BW400CN had, it's more like Delta400 on the matter, BW400CN was critized because it wasn't considered "pushy" or "contrasty" enough at the time, while I like it because it had more "colour", for instance this is BW400CN through my Leica IIIb and an Industar 61: The fine grain and wide tonal range are what attract me to this film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted April 19, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 19, 2015 Old habits die hard; I still try to minimise grain. Chris 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Mark, I used this film BW400CN before when it was released and as I like a lot the contrast with a palette of white, gray white, gray , black and dark black , I tested the TX400. Since I like this film, but Ilford Delta 100 is nice too as said Cuthbert. The advantage is the development "laboratory home" and not the C41 process as the color. Look at the contrast of TX400 in this picture , the difference giving some relief to the smoke taken against the lightMark white (here of cloud) is white, right ? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As said one famous photographer "each new film" (brand) "is a new sensor" Best Henry Edited April 19, 2015 by Doc Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As said one famous photographer "each new film" (brand) "is a new sensor" Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243803-do-we-shoot-film-now-for-the-grain/?do=findComment&comment=2800937'>More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 19, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 19, 2015 Thanks Henry, I will indeed move from C41 B&W once my current supplies are exhausted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted April 19, 2015 Share #20 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Thanks Henry, I will indeed move from C41 B&W once my current supplies are exhausted. Mark this picture is for you and Cuthbert for the "white" Nice contrast too and great difference from foreground to background consequence of a great "dynamic" of film .... but it is true that white is less "soft" than the BW400CN Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica MP 50 LA Ilford Delta100 Prof. "White is white" like in one famous song Cheers Henry Edited April 19, 2015 by Doc Henry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica MP 50 LA Ilford Delta100 Prof. "White is white" like in one famous song Cheers Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/243803-do-we-shoot-film-now-for-the-grain/?do=findComment&comment=2800940'>More sharing options...
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