IkarusJohn Posted April 15, 2015 Author Share #21 Posted April 15, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, though time is an issue. I use a Lumu meter on my iPhone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A miller Posted April 16, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 16, 2015 There really is something to be said for not relying on an in-camera meter in many situations. I have been playing around with a "new" second hand M7 and, while I think it is great and has a VERY accurate meter and will serve me well (esp with the HSS!), the meter is prone to changing its reading at every slight turn of an angle of the camera. A slight point upward can, on a reasonably bright day, cause a 1-2 stop increase in shutter speed; and likewise for a slight tilt downward. I will get a different reading when pointing at a person with a black jacket vs a person with the same skin tone with a green jacket. This is not the meter's fault at all, but in this example the jacket is not the main subject of the photo, so the exposure shouldn't be dictated by the jacket. Sure, one can certainly override the in-camera meter on the fly. But I personally would prefer to do without it (and rely on a handheld to confirm the overall exposure) in those situations in which it is possible (which by no means is all situations). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted April 16, 2015 Share #23 Posted April 16, 2015 I have noted that after practically constant use over the past 5 months I am seeing some silvery wear(?) along both sides from the strap attachments, at the corners of the step up above the eyepiece where I rewind, and at the tip of the film advance lever. The more I use it the less interested I seem to be in any of my other 35mm cameras. Truly another Leica classic M to join all the preceeding classic Ms. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) There really is something to be said for not relying on an in-camera meter in many situations. I have been playing around with a "new" second hand M7 and, while I think it is great and has a VERY accurate meter and will serve me well (esp with the HSS!), the meter is prone to changing its reading at every slight turn of an angle of the camera. A slight point upward can, on a reasonably bright day, cause a 1-2 stop increase in shutter speed; and likewise for a slight tilt downward. I will get a different reading when pointing at a person with a black jacket vs a person with the same skin tone with a green jacket. This is not the meter's fault at all, but in this example the jacket is not the main subject of the photo, so the exposure shouldn't be dictated by the jacket. Sure, one can certainly override the in-camera meter on the fly. But I personally would prefer to do without it (and rely on a handheld to confirm the overall exposure) in those situations in which it is possible (which by no means is all situations). This was a significant driver for me. My film interest is purely B&W (though I do tend to have slide film in my SWC, though for different reasons), so I tend to be looking for contrast. I have always disliked the way centre weighted, reflective meters expose everything to neutral, 18% grey. So, I'm trying to use an incident meter more - this tends to slow things down and not necessarily in a good way ... Hopefully my workflow will improve, and I will find time to develop and scan the small mountain of exposed negatives I'm building up. I really need to focus ... Edited April 16, 2015 by IkarusJohn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted April 16, 2015 Share #25 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I have noted that after practically constant use over the past 5 months I am seeing some silvery wear(?) along both sides from the strap attachments, at the corners of the step up above the eyepiece where I rewind, and at the tip of the film advance lever. I never liked that they removed the plastic standoffs that prevented this type of wear as on the M6 etc.. With this strap wear and the black paint, e.g. on the MP the easily rubs off, perhaps Leica are trying to drive down the cosmetic grades of used cameras from M- to Exc+ thus encouraging more new sales. Edited April 16, 2015 by FrozenInTime Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted April 16, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 16, 2015 With this strap wear and the black paint, e.g. on the MP the easily rubs off, perhaps Leica are trying to drive down the cosmetic grades of used cameras from M- to Exc+ thus encouraging more new sales. Perhaps not. The black lacquer of the MP is supposed to wear. It's a USP apparently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted April 17, 2015 Share #27 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) I never liked that they removed the plastic standoffs that prevented this type of wear as on the M6 etc.. With this strap wear and the black paint, e.g. on the MP the easily rubs off, perhaps Leica are trying to drive down the cosmetic grades of used cameras from M- to Exc+ thus encouraging more new sales. I am using the Leica strap with the plastic standoffs. I have been looking at the wear and it appears to be caused by the plastic itself. It seems a bit odd and I have been considering wrapping them with some gaffer's tape and see if that helps. I guess if my fingers create wear in high use areas then there is probably no reason why plastic wouldn't either. Since the leather cover below doesn't show wear maybe I should cut some guards out of leather to place over the lugs before I attach the strap. Edited April 17, 2015 by ThePioneer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 17, 2015 Share #28 Posted April 17, 2015 Yes, though time is an issue. I use a Lumu meter on my iPhone. +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Faust Posted April 17, 2015 Share #29 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) nothing wrong? wait ... and Edited April 17, 2015 by Die Faust Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted April 17, 2015 Share #30 Posted April 17, 2015 nothing wrong? wait ... and The first one seems like something is not right – probably something to do with the clutch mechanism (perhaps similar to the problem that sometimes occurs where a film cannot be wound on after about half a roll – the solution involving tightening/adjusting one of the washers). The second video might just show a film that hasn't been loaded properly. In fact I'm not quite sure what the second video is meant to be proving? I'm amazed at the lengths people go to nowadays. Isn't it easier to simply get Leica to look at a problem rather than video it and put it on Youtube? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted April 17, 2015 Share #31 Posted April 17, 2015 nothing wrong? wait ... and I do feel bad that these people seem to have received new Leica cameras with problems. Pretty sure they are still under warranty though. Why not just notify Leica and have the camera repaired so it works properly. That is how most people handle these issues...don't they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted April 17, 2015 Share #32 Posted April 17, 2015 nothing wrong? wait ... A unique out of box defect - this is not a M-A type specific fault or in any way normal for M cameras in general. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 7, 2015 Share #33 Posted May 7, 2015 Just wait until the complaints start rolling in about dust, tramlines and fingerprints in the raw file... wait until you use the "spot-tone" instead of photoshop... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyjoe Posted May 7, 2015 Share #34 Posted May 7, 2015 That second video, the one with the chrome M-A, something is not right there. If that's a brand new M-A, why are the two machined dots in the center of the rewind knob not red? That's how it comes from the factory. Has that camera gotten so much use that the red paint in those machined dots has already flaked out? Or is that some other camera with a M-A top plate attached? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredR Posted May 7, 2015 Share #35 Posted May 7, 2015 ...why are the two machined dots in the center of the rewind knob not red? Red eye correction. Fred 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted June 10, 2015 Share #36 Posted June 10, 2015 M-A arrived last week, and shot through my first roll of Tri-X. So far, I can report: No scratches or coffee stain LCD issues No lock-ups No scratched or corroded sensors No battery problems No buffer issues No metering problems Just life the way it should be ... Yes, the way it should be. As I reported in one of the Q threads, my M-A developed an intermittent but increasingly annoying light leak problem. On the plus side, Leica replaced it today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus_L_Andersson Posted June 17, 2015 Share #37 Posted June 17, 2015 A unique out of box defect - this is not a M-A type specific fault or in any way normal for M cameras in general. I'm the guy in the video and it took Leica 2 months to fix the problem and according to the description it looks like they almost swapped everything inside... but nothing about what was the cause magnus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted June 18, 2015 Share #38 Posted June 18, 2015 I'm glad you did get it fixed Magnus. Too bad you never learned the cause. It would have been interesting to know. I sincerely hope you have no more problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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