Manoleica Posted April 2, 2015 Share #21 Posted April 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Some of the above are very good, others rather poor IMHO. Street photography is hard to define, everyone has their own idea, but I don't think it qualifies as snapshots of random people doing nothing in particular. If you want those kind of shots you could just set up a camera to take a photo at random times, or go CCTV! Edit out the weak shots and it makes the rest stronger. Hi, professional photojournalism/street photography is as you say hard to define.. Again as you say some Posted images are not great, B U T - I do NOT think we should edit out anyones work.. Just bypass the images you feel are not up to your desired standard.. A newowner/newcomer to the Leica Clan may well feel discriminated against due to inexperience.. To me everyone is welcome.. Even a winning photograph is criticized by some.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 2, 2015 Posted April 2, 2015 Hi Manoleica, Take a look here Open Thread: Street? Anyone can do street!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
A miller Posted April 2, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 2, 2015 I think these comments are constructive, well intentioned and thus healthy for the forum and also for all of our growth. I don't think Earl is suggesting that the forum edit out certain photos. Rather, I think he is merely suggesting that people do more critical beating up of their own photos before presenting them on the forum. This doesn't necessarily mean that people should post less. It is just a comment made in ernest by someone who sn't an idiot. As we know, there are many different elements that, individually or in combination, can make a photo work. A "street" photo doesn't necessarily have to have textbook composition, or pretty/interesting people, or a special expressions, or a justaposition, or colors or tones, etc. But the photographer posting the image on the forum ought to have formed a view that the photo holds together in some fashion, and be prepared to articulate, and if necessary even defend, the reasons why on this forum. I believe that this way we can grow in our photography and the sopistication of our eyes. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Share #23 Posted April 2, 2015 Interesting points and counterpoints, Earl and Adam. My reasoning for creating the thread is that (a) the major block for most people contemplating the genre is gathering the nerve to take even the very first shot and ( that the very essence of what makes a *great* street photo is practice practice practice, thinking thinking thinking, composition, echoes, whatever. And there's still a strong element of luck, timing and the stars arranging themselves in such a fashion that this or that photo just comes together. So the thread isn't about "Anyone can do *great* street!" But it is about "Anyone can start on that journey". My own shots are obviously by someone at the beginning of the journey, and I won't apologise for that. But myself and others can easily be swatted aside by hardened pros like yourselves by joining Hard Core Street Photography on Flickr. Adam, you yourself are quite a street rock star on Flickr, but I'm almost certain your first street shots were quite, erm, average. Unless you're Cartier-Bresson's unacknowledged love child, of course. So let's enjoy a thread showing people's first steps, mistakes, hiccups, whatever. And let's encourage people to take their *next* series of street photos rather than pointing out the obvious which is all too often interpreted as "your first attempts are cr@p, so cease and desist from polluting our eyes". Oh, and where are *your* street shots? Adam, your Flickr account is a feast for my eyes! :-) Earl, I'm going to see what yiu have on Flickr... Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Share #24 Posted April 2, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M6 & Summicron 50mm & Kodak BW400CN. Ok, a bit of luck here 'cos there's a girl with this guy who was obscured as I fumbled around with the focus. A bit more luck would have made the three legs and three arms more pronounced, but only half of the stars aligned themselves. Ah well. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M6 & Summicron 50mm & Kodak BW400CN. Ok, a bit of luck here 'cos there's a girl with this guy who was obscured as I fumbled around with the focus. A bit more luck would have made the three legs and three arms more pronounced, but only half of the stars aligned themselves. Ah well. Ric ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242605-open-thread-street-anyone-can-do-street/?do=findComment&comment=2791563'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted April 2, 2015 Share #25 Posted April 2, 2015 Hi Ric - thanks for your post. I do think that we are all in agreement. I am most certainly not an expert on this topic. But I've been hanging around here for a few years now and I can say that I have learned the most about myself and the "truth" about what my eyes may be seeing vs what they could be seeing if I open my mind (and eyes) more by either silence or vocal constructive comments on this forum. As for posting here, I would be happy to but it will have to wait until later this month when I am back from vacation in Miami Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 2, 2015 Hi Ric - thanks for your post. I do think that we are all in agreement. I am most certainly not an expert on this topic. But I've been hanging around here for a few years now and I can say that I have learned the most about myself and the "truth" about what my eyes may be seeing vs what they could be seeing if I open my mind (and eyes) more by either silence or vocal constructive comments on this forum. As for posting here, I would be happy to but it will have to wait until later this month when I am back from vacation in Miami Miami! Pah, if you could see the miserable weather here in Zürich today you'd know how much I envy you right now. Guessing it's not snowing today... thought not. Looking forward to seeing your Miami street shots! Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 2, 2015 Share #27 Posted April 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think these comments are constructive, well intentioned and thus healthy for the forum and also for all of our growth. I don't think Earl is suggesting that the forum edit out certain photos. Rather, I think he is merely suggesting that people do more critical beating up of their own photos before presenting them on the forum. This doesn't necessarily mean that people should post less. It is just a comment made in ernest by someone who sn't an idiot. As we know, there are many different elements that, individually or in combination, can make a photo work. A "street" photo doesn't necessarily have to have textbook composition, or pretty/interesting people, or a special expressions, or a justaposition, or colors or tones, etc. But the photographer posting the image on the forum ought to have formed a view that the photo holds together in some fashion, and be prepared to articulate, and if necessary even defend, the reasons why on this forum. I believe that this way we can grow in our photography and the sopistication of our eyes. Absolutely spot on - exactly where I'm coming from but explained perfectly! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Share #28 Posted April 2, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M6 & Summicron 50mm & Kodak BW400CN. Ok ok, a little bit naughty of me. I saw the sign, and knowing that Interlaken is always teeming with Asian tourists it was only a matter of time... so sure enough the actors walked into the scene. There are zillions of reason why I'm destined for hell, so might as well chuck this one onto the pile... Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M6 & Summicron 50mm & Kodak BW400CN. Ok ok, a little bit naughty of me. I saw the sign, and knowing that Interlaken is always teeming with Asian tourists it was only a matter of time... so sure enough the actors walked into the scene. There are zillions of reason why I'm destined for hell, so might as well chuck this one onto the pile... Ric ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242605-open-thread-street-anyone-can-do-street/?do=findComment&comment=2791567'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 2, 2015 Share #29 Posted April 2, 2015 So the thread isn't about "Anyone can do *great* street!" But it is about "Anyone can start on that journey". Earl, I'm going to see what yiu have on Flickr... Ric Don't bother, I've got hardly anything on Flickr - I did post on the photo forums here if you search my username you'll find them. Most recently I've been suffering from photographers block, but recently had a wander around with a (ducks) non-Leica camera/lens combination so can't post here, but managed to get a couple of shots I was personally happy with, here's one I've uploaded to my non blog http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-thx1_SDBiA0/VR1oK6rjjmI/AAAAAAAAAIY/P4XbXeUZpCo/s1600/spot%2Bthe%2Bball.jpg 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted April 2, 2015 Share #30 Posted April 2, 2015 Due to work I didn't have time for photography the last couple of months. I was hoping I could shoot some film in Hongkong now. Yesterday I had my first day out just by myself. Grabbed the MP with a 35 and an M6 with an 18mm on it. Surely it would be easy to fill a couple of rolls in a day? Maybe it was the pressure of trying too hard because of the very limited free time I have here. Blocked out completely. Hopefully I have some satisfying results but with film, I can't check... [emoji16] Now hoping I can find just one other day off before I leave. Not satisfied at all at the moment. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2015 Share #31 Posted April 2, 2015 Don't bother, I've got hardly anything on Flickr - I did post on the photo forums here if you search my username you'll find them. Most recently I've been suffering from photographers block, but recently had a wander around with a (ducks) non-Leica camera/lens combination so can't post here, but managed to get a couple of shots I was personally happy with, here's one I've uploaded to my non blog http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-thx1_SDBiA0/VR1oK6rjjmI/AAAAAAAAAIY/P4XbXeUZpCo/s1600/spot%2Bthe%2Bball.jpg Yeah, like that arrow pointing at the ball. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted April 3, 2015 Share #32 Posted April 3, 2015 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Ilford XP2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Ilford XP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242605-open-thread-street-anyone-can-do-street/?do=findComment&comment=2791938'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2015 Share #33 Posted April 3, 2015 [ATTACH]491972[/ATTACH]M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Ilford XP2 Dunno what I'd do without XP2. Cracking stuff. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Martin Posted April 3, 2015 Share #34 Posted April 3, 2015 I agree with James, I think it proves that not everyone can do street photography Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted April 3, 2015 Share #35 Posted April 3, 2015 Oh, I don't know about that, Lee. I think that we all have a unique vision of life and how we see things. The interesting photographic problem is to be able to work at it hard enough to be able to successfully articulate our unique perspectives. I believe that issues arise when we try to imitate other people's styles or simply take an approach that doesn't utilize our own unique faculties. Take me and "goemetry." I was never that good at it in school, and my peripheral vision certainly doesn't pick up on this in an artful way. I have my moments, and when they come I'll happily take them. But the thought of sifting around the streets trying to find geometry and the like is not only unnatural but down right not enjoyable. So I don't do it. It is up to us to commit the effort to find that sweet spot that combines enjoyment with successful photos. If we don't do this, it is the lack of effort that is to blame and not one's fundamental potential. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted April 3, 2015 Share #36 Posted April 3, 2015 Here is a mildly interesting one from nyc. It illustrates the wonderful flare that the 28mm summaron gives. IIIg, 28mm summaron, portra 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242605-open-thread-street-anyone-can-do-street/?do=findComment&comment=2792199'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 3, 2015 Share #37 Posted April 3, 2015 That photo is hilarious! And the flare makes it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 3, 2015 Share #38 Posted April 3, 2015 That photo is hilarious! And the flare makes it. +1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted April 3, 2015 Share #39 Posted April 3, 2015 Hi Rick, well as there's been so much comment here I may, in a constructive manner, critique your photos. I am no expert in street photography and don't think I do it particularly well - partly because of the potential invasion of peoples private space. I certainly wish I had Adam's chutzpah but I suspect that the streets of NYC are tuned to such activity and certainly have a rich source of material to work with. It's hard to define - a bit like that judge said about pornography. he couldn't define it but knew it when he saw it. Post #1. Doesn't do anything for me - lady walking in street between men & tram. No emotional connection, no humour, no interesting interplay between subjects. Post #2. Similarly, not interesting subject matter. Post #3. Great photo. Wherever I look there's something to see. The strong contrast really enhances the textures and many discordant lines and shapes in this photograph: the street and its gutters, tram tracks, power cables, pedestrian crossing, lines of cars and their shadows, the pale rectangles on the sidewalk to the left, just a hint of light to define the buildings to the left, and of course the people and their strong shadows to add a human dimension to this mood photograph. Post #4. Again I really like this one. Emotional connection to what looks like a lonely old lady alone in a cafe/bar. It looks like it could have been taken any time since the introduction of neon lights. Why is the there, what is she thinking - is she alone or waiting for friends to meet her for her birthday? Post #12. Sorry, boring photo of man looking at his mobile phone. The sticker on the pole isn't relevant to the story. No emotional contact with this photo, nor story to tell. Post #14. No story to tell here. Post #16 works better than Post #15. The mascara poster is too obscured in the first. Good idea but you needed to wait for just the right connection between the poster and a passerby. Post#17 was made by your attached story which gave it context - unfortunately we can't see their smiles so this needed a bit of post-processing and text to enhance the part of the photograph that was so critical to you. I have often posted photographs which have some undefined emotional connection to me and depressingly others just don't even comment - silence speaks a thousand words! Post #24 really works because of the humour and timing. Humour is street is always good! Post #28. Boring. Sorry to end this on a dull note. I hope this is of some use and accepted with the good intent with which it is offered. Kind regards, Mark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
concretist Posted April 3, 2015 Share #40 Posted April 3, 2015 Paris. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/242605-open-thread-street-anyone-can-do-street/?do=findComment&comment=2792236'>More sharing options...
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