wilf Posted July 17, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe that this article about the restoration by Malcolm Taylor of Oscar Barnacks cine camera and photographs taken of the restored camera in the mid to late 1970's will be of interest to Leica historians. The Leica Before the First Leica Best regards, Wilf James. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Hi wilf, Take a look here Oscar Barnacks Cine Camera. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted July 17, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 17, 2014 Welcome to the LEICA forum! And thx a lot for a splendid first post in the HISTORICA section. I "ran" into this camera some time back and had a chance to take these shots. Since no adeqate Leitz lenses seem to have been available, O. Barnack used a C. Z. Jena lens, a Kino Tessar # 244 683. Regards GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230671-oscar-barnacks-cine-camera/?do=findComment&comment=2632298'>More sharing options...
wilf Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Georg, Thank you for posting those images - fantastic. It is 35 years (I think) since I photographed the camera handled it etc. and I do feel privileged to be a part of its history, albeit very small. It is great to "see" it again and in the same place that Barnack was photographed using it. I do believe it has been put on view in the new Leica museum. I have been a lifelong Leica man, but I tend to look and enjoy the posts, by no means a lurker, just a very interested Leica enthusiast - thank you for the welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted July 17, 2014 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2014 >> Wilf Well, these photographs are from 2010 and before this event the camera wasn´t out in the open for centuries. It took year long negotiations with the LEICA Co. before these photos could be taken ... Regards GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230671-oscar-barnacks-cine-camera/?do=findComment&comment=2632382'>More sharing options...
pico Posted July 17, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2014 Looking at Barnack's letter, I'm wondering if all brilliant camera mechanics have doctor's handwriting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilf Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Georg, Yes I missed that out - I have only heard that it recently was put on display after years of not being seen, so your images were a very pleasant surprise. It must have been an amazing experience to see and photograph Oscar Barnack's cine camera, and the fact you managed to get Leica to agree to this. No mean feet I believe. Also, it is great to such lovely images. Thank you. Edited July 17, 2014 by wilf update 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 17, 2014 Share #7 Posted July 17, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Welcome to the LEICA forum! And thx a lot for a splendid first post in the HISTORICA section. I "ran" into this camera some time back and had a chance to take these shots. Since no adeqate Leitz lenses seem to have been available, O. Barnack used a C. Z. Jena lens, a Kino Tessar # 244 683. Regards GEORG How wonderful that these photographs were taken on exactly the spot where Barnack had been using the camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted July 17, 2014 Share #8 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) This was at an event, organized by LEICA HISTORICA, Jaap, one of the reasons why it is most interesting to come to their annual meetings to Staufenberg/ Wetzlar. Guests are always welcome. In fact, there are a few members from the Netherlands appearing regularly. Here is the view (app.) Oskar Barnack was after in 1914. Apart from the bridges it hasn´t changed a lot since then ... Best GEORG Edited July 17, 2014 by k_g_wolf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted July 17, 2014 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2014 Wrong button, here it is. Best GEORG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230671-oscar-barnacks-cine-camera/?do=findComment&comment=2632423'>More sharing options...
wilf Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted July 19, 2014 I did have copies of various images taken by Barnack and certainly the one of Barnack with his Cine Camera and although I could not find a similar location we took the camera to Brighton beach (UK) trying to invoke that post Victorian period. For anyone that knows Brighton, the image of the pier in the background is the West Pier which no longer exists except for skeleton metal structure. These are a couple of the images that feature in the article but I thought it would be of interest to post it here. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/230671-oscar-barnacks-cine-camera/?do=findComment&comment=2633553'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 20, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) This was at an event, organized by LEICA HISTORICA, Jaap, one of the reasons why it is most interesting to come to their annual meetings to Staufenberg/ Wetzlar. Guests are always welcome. In fact, there are a few members from the Netherlands appearing regularly. Here is the view (app.) Oskar Barnack was after in 1914. Apart from the bridges it hasn´t changed a lot since then ... Best GEORG Thank you, Georg. I recognised the spot immediately, having walked there a few years ago. Thank you too for drawing my attention to Leica Historica. I was not aware of its existence. Edited July 20, 2014 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted July 20, 2014 Share #12 Posted July 20, 2014 As a location Brighton beach presents no problem, however, we are entering the "Kennst du Deutschland" thread's territory on the German forum to locate the site of Barnack's cine photography. My guess is Bad Ems on the Lahn from the terrain and the architecture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted July 20, 2014 Share #13 Posted July 20, 2014 Spot on! Just realized, that BAD EMS was not mentioned in the thread so far. BIG mistake, sorry. Glad you did. Best GEORG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted July 20, 2014 Share #14 Posted July 20, 2014 Thanks Georg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 20, 2014 Share #15 Posted July 20, 2014 Spot on! Just realized, that BAD EMS was not mentioned in the thread so far. BIG mistake, sorry.Glad you did. Best GEORG No problem, I spent a couple of nights in Montabaur back then. A bit of Holland's back yard... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted February 18, 2017 Share #16 Posted February 18, 2017 Does anyone know how to find on YouTube the earliest movies posted using this camera. A few years ago I was able to find them by just putting in "Barnack movies". Now when I do this I only come up with "the Barnack Prize". I continued to put in other leads but could not acquire the movies of the floods in Wetzlar and movies taken from the zeppelins. Have these been removed from YouTube? Any help appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted February 18, 2017 Share #17 Posted February 18, 2017 Try searching for "oskar barnack hochwasser" in youtube. More can be found among the videos uploaded by filmarchivesonline, given some patience. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted March 14, 2017 Share #18 Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) I did have copies of various images taken by Barnack and certainly the one of Barnack with his Cine Camera and although I could not find a similar location we took the camera to Brighton beach (UK) trying to invoke that post Victorian period. For anyone that knows Brighton, the image of the pier in the background is the West Pier which no longer exists except for skeleton metal structure. These are a couple of the images that feature in the article but I thought it would be of interest to post it here. I note that the camera operator in one of the pictures has a UR Leica over his shoulder. This is exactly as O. Barnack would have done one hundred years before. That is a nice touch to make the picture more authenic. Or was this a picture taken almost one hundred years ago! Well now I see in the other picture what looks like a Kodak instamatic camera on the concrete shoulder, and white lettering on the UR Leica... MMM not one hundred years ago I guess. Edited March 14, 2017 by George Furst Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted March 18, 2017 Share #19 Posted March 18, 2017 I note that the camera operator in one of the pictures has a UR Leica over his shoulder. This is exactly as O. Barnack would have done one hundred years before. That is a nice touch to make the picture more authenic. Or was this a picture taken almost one hundred years ago! Well now I see in the other picture what looks like a Kodak instamatic camera on the concrete shoulder, and white lettering on the UR Leica... MMM not one hundred years ago I guess. That's Malcolm Taylor with the Ur-Leica replica. He is not that old! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 18, 2017 Share #20 Posted March 18, 2017 I note that the camera operator in one of the pictures has a UR Leica over his shoulder. This is exactly as O. Barnack would have done one hundred years before. That is a nice touch to make the picture more authenic. Or was this a picture taken almost one hundred years ago! Well now I see in the other picture what looks like a Kodak instamatic camera on the concrete shoulder, and white lettering on the UR Leica... MMM not one hundred years ago I guess. The link on the first post does not seem to be working. The photos were taken during the 1970s. This link should work and place everything in context. https://www.worldphotoadventure.com/in-conversation-with-malcolm-taylor/ William Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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