Popular Post A miller Posted November 25, 2013 Popular Post Share #1 Posted November 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks to the recommendation and insights provided by "Ufa" and "CalArts" on a previous thread in this forum, I obtained some rolls of the CineStill film and wanted to share a sample of the results. While CineStill is packaged by a generic label company, my understanding is that the film was originally designed and produced by Kodak for cinema work and was acquired repackaged into 35mm rolls by a third party company. The following were taken with my M3 and 35mm summilux asph FLE These shots from were developed at 800 ISO (no pushing) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! These shots were developed at 1600 ISO (one stop push) These shots were taken at 3200 (two stop push) Overall, I was tremendously pleased with these results. the film indeed has a cinematic rendition to it. And the color rendition is more pleasing than with my M9 with the ISO boosted. With a the two stop push, I was able to shoot in Times Square at night at F4-F5.6 @ 1/125. Shooting at F4 @1/125 inside the subway system is quite awesome and I look forward to using this film more. Thanks again to Ufa, CalArts and the others who shared your insights regarding this. Best, Adam 25 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! These shots were developed at 1600 ISO (one stop push) These shots were taken at 3200 (two stop push) Overall, I was tremendously pleased with these results. the film indeed has a cinematic rendition to it. And the color rendition is more pleasing than with my M9 with the ISO boosted. With a the two stop push, I was able to shoot in Times Square at night at F4-F5.6 @ 1/125. Shooting at F4 @1/125 inside the subway system is quite awesome and I look forward to using this film more. Thanks again to Ufa, CalArts and the others who shared your insights regarding this. Best, Adam ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2473173'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Hi A miller, Take a look here Samples from CineStill film @ zero, one and two stop pushes. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Doc Henry Posted November 25, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2013 A good choice and good work Adam Beautiful pictures I also find that the color of the M9 and M8 is very similar to Kodak film , especially Portra 400 and 160 Best Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 25, 2013 Share #3 Posted November 25, 2013 the film indeed has a cinematic rendition to it While it does have interesting color, absolutely no motion picture goes out the door without plenty of post-rendering, either digital or film. If you ever saw the raw film you would probably be appalled. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted November 25, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 25, 2013 Wow ive got to try this film, thanks for posting 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted December 5, 2013 Share #5 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Peculiarly all of the lights have large red halos around them. So the removal of the rem-jet backing results in a lot of halation. Edited December 5, 2013 by AlanG Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted December 8, 2013 Share #6 Posted December 8, 2013 here is a shot of photographer Donna Ferrato at a NY Leica Gallery opening featuring her work, shot with the cine still film. Also below is a shot I took outside with the film in Times Sq of a policeman in a tow truck -- yes, it really is a tow away zone. Bottom line is I like the film, less pastel-like than portra range, a bit like ektar 100 in that it works best when you nail the exposure just right. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2483180'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted December 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for sharing, Steve. Here are a few more from my batch. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2483774'>More sharing options...
Lax Jought Posted December 9, 2013 Share #8 Posted December 9, 2013 [ATTACH]410085[/ATTACH] I like the colour grade/tone on this one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted December 13, 2013 Here are some shots with the Cinestill 800 pushed two stops that I took from Jerusalem last week. Shot with my M3 and 50mm dual range summicron Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2486421'>More sharing options...
sblitz Posted December 14, 2013 Share #10 Posted December 14, 2013 Nice. Amazed you can still take pictures there. What time of day was this that you needed to push to 3200? Also. How did you get the film to Israel in terms of airport security without not ruining the film? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lax Jought Posted December 14, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 14, 2013 I didn't realise you couldn't take photos there. They're very nice photos. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted December 14, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 14, 2013 Hi Adam and Steve, Thanks for sharing your pics and observations. I really like the portraits in NY & Jerusalem, some of the cityscapes and the tow truck (colours!) and the Eye (that close to Blade Runner...). Just received two rolls of CineStill that I ordered on a whim upon reading here. Look forward trying those and will post results, if worthwhile. Cheers, Alexander 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) Many thanks, Steve, Lax and Alexander: I took these shots at around midnight. I pushed two stops b/c I was not just at the well-lit Wall but also was traveling through the poorly lit neighborhoods of the Old City. The shot with the umbrella was b/n f4 and f5.6, which at 1/125 really required the high ISO boost. As far as I'm concerned, the Wall is fair game for photographs, provided it is done tastefully and preserves peoples' dignity. For many, the experience at the Wall is extremely private, particularly in the context of a prayer service. I forewent numerous opportunities to shoot candid moments out of respect for either the subject or the people around who appeared on edge. The below shot was not taken with Cinestill (rather Kodak TMAX 400 pushed one stop) but shows at least one regular visitor happy to see me and my Leica. He was quite learned on the history of the Leica company and we exchanged some interesting tidbits about rangefinder photography. Alexander - I am very much looking forward to seeing your shots from this film! -Adam Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 14, 2013 by A miller 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2487254'>More sharing options...
xalo Posted December 18, 2013 Share #14 Posted December 18, 2013 Hello there, the first roll is back. Scanned by the lab, minor adjustments by me (levels, contrast). This is at box speed of 800 iso, taken with M5 and 35/1,4 asph. I hadn't noticed the red halos before; I guess this hints at a (missing or removed?) layer in the emulsion. Big grain in those scans' dark areas. The film may need more light than I alloted. Indoors and with lighter tones it fared a bit better. Also posted a sample in Barnack's Monthly. Look forward to checking out the second roll. Cheers, Alexander Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2490319'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted December 19, 2013 Hi Alexander - nice work. Except for the red halos, i like the color rendering quite a bit. I think the halos can be muted somewhat in PP, but cant be totally eliminated. I especially like the second shot. I look forward to seeing samples from your second roll. Best, adam 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xalo Posted December 19, 2013 Share #16 Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks, Adam. Hardly work, more play at this stage I like the colours best on the second as well, hoped for a bit more definition. will see when I get to scan some frames on my Minolta 5400 and if that makes any difference. Btw, the guy at the lab was looking a little bewildered when seeing the CineStill cartridge. Not too common material, it seems. If you get a chance, I'd be pleased to learn how you deal with the halos. Also, on some frames I noticed light coloured traces, mostly red or blue. They did not look like flare, rather some reaction of the film during development. The site I got the film from referred to a procedure applied prior to conditioning, in order to remove a protective layer and make the film proper for C-41 development. Wondered if that was related. Anyway, good fun. Will also compare to other high speed films. Alexander Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted December 19, 2013 Share #17 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Putting the red halos aside, lack of an anti-halation backing may be responsible for the soft look of this film. (Although it is impossible to tell what the other characteristics are of this film without sensitometric tests and careful measurements.) This halo effect would allow highlights to expand into other areas in various ways. There are no comparison baseline images of the same photos shot with other film. And then you have the variable of scanning which can have the biggest impact in the look of an image since the color, exposure and tones of an image can be altered in all kinds of ways at that point. I'd suspect you could shoot with other C41 film and get a similar look without the red halos by adjusting the scanning settings and/or in other post processing. One can certainly expand highlights into shadows to simulate halation. So maybe the lack of the anti-halation backing can contribute to a special overall look beyond the red halos and maybe it doesn't. And perhaps this film has some other aspect that makes it unique. But nothing I've seen posted has convinced me to conclude anything about it beyond the "uniqueness" of the red halos. (For better of for worse.) That is not to say you shouldn't use the film if you like this look. Once upon a time, people put white paper or even aluminum foil inside their view camera bellows for a special look too. Edited December 19, 2013 by AlanG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 19, 2013 Author Share #18 Posted December 19, 2013 Hi Alexander - i have "dealt" with the red halos by making peace with them. It is interesting that not all overexposed lighting elements produce these halos. After scanning at 4000 dpi with my nikon coolscan 9000, i edited the images in lightroom. I treated some of the halos by running the brush over them and sliding the "highlight" slides to the left as much as possible. I also slid the red luminance slider to the left as much as possible. This took the edge off for the most acute halos. I frankly dont mind them as they appear in my images above and will happily accept them in exchange for the ability to shoot at f4. @ 1/125 in the streets at night or in the subway system (pushed 2-3 stops) in development. I was in london this week and went through a roll mostly indoors and will share one or two in due course... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brt Posted December 21, 2013 Share #19 Posted December 21, 2013 Some examples from another roll @iso 1600, development pushed 2 stops Prints look a lot better than the downsampled jpegs The red flag syndrome is a fact Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2492247'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted December 22, 2013 here are a couple from my trip to London last week. Red halos galore. But what high ISO tungsten light friendly currently readily available on the market today does better? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/217280-samples-from-cinestill-film-zero-one-and-two-stop-pushes/?do=findComment&comment=2492558'>More sharing options...
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