Jump to content

The Leica Forum uses cookies. Read the privacy statement for more info. To remove this message, please click the button to the right:    OK, understood.

Photo
- - - - -

CV 15f4.5 super wide heliar on M8??


  • Please log in to reply
12 replies to this topic

#1 elcap

elcap

    Neuer Benutzer

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 10 posts

Posted 20 October 2013 - 22:02

Advertisement (Gone after free registration)
Does anyone have experience with that combo? I read a few reports about the lens attached to an M9 like THIS one.
It looks like the lens doesn't have a filter thread, although apparently there are people shooting with a filter on, like that guy, would he glue the filter on the lens?:confused:

Would I need cornerfix when shooting colour?
What about coding the lens on the M8?

Are there other lenses to consider? With the 1.33 crop factor I'd like to get as wide as possible, I think I wouldn't mind shooting with an external viewfinder (depth of field! :D)
I was also thinking about the Leitz 21f3.4, any opinions to that?
http://fixedfocallength.tumblr.com/

Leica M8
Zeiss Biogon 35 f2

#2 harvey999999

harvey999999

    Benutzer

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 73 posts
  • City / Ort:Darwin Australia

Posted 20 October 2013 - 22:09

Good reports about the Voigtlander 21mm f1.8.
Harvey

"There are no bad pictures; that's just how your face looks sometimes.” — Abraham Lincoln

#3 janrzm

janrzm

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationNZ
  • City / Ort:Tauranga

Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:20

I did the report you referenced on the 15/4.5

I also have the 21/1.8 both are excellent but I have no experience of them on the M8 unfortunately.

Cheers, Jason

#4 Ecar

Ecar

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 1,663 posts

Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:18

The CV is a nice lens - lots of info on this forum. Get the (newer, rangefinder-coupled) M mount version.
If you want wide and versatile, you may want to consider the WATE.
You'll need a finder - make sure you take into account the crop factor (eg, you need a 28 finder for a 21 lens - or the Frankenfinder).

#5 paulmac

paulmac

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 3,233 posts

Posted 21 October 2013 - 17:50

Does anyone have experience with that combo? I read a few reports about the lens attached to an M9 like THIS one.
It looks like the lens doesn't have a filter thread, although apparently there are people shooting with a filter on, like that guy, would he glue the filter on the lens?:confused:

Would I need cornerfix when shooting colour?
What about coding the lens on the M8?

Are there other lenses to consider? With the 1.33 crop factor I'd like to get as wide as possible, I think I wouldn't mind shooting with an external viewfinder (depth of field! :D)
I was also thinking about the Leitz 21f3.4, any opinions to that?


The Voigtlander is a great lens on the M8. No red edges and stunningly sharp right from wide open without any distortion.

It's a no brainer - if you want a truly excellent superwide lens on the M8, the little Voigtlander is the way to go. If you can get a rangefinder coupled one then go for it but optically the older and the new versions of this lens are the same. Depth of field is so great that if you can estimate 1 to 2 meters then you wont go far wrong with focus, so the non rangefinder coupled lens is really easy to use.. Use a 21mm finder on the M8 to take into account the crop factor of the camera.

On the M9 the lens is not so good giving really strong red edges but on the M8 this lens is SUPERB !!

!st pic taken on a M8 plus 15mm Voigtander non rangefinder coupled lens, The Bronx NYC 2nd pic same camera and lens Coney Island NYC:-

Attached Files

  • Attached File  15mm2.jpg   137.47KB   167 downloads
  • Attached File  15mm.jpg   105.53KB   167 downloads

Edited by paulmac, 21 October 2013 - 17:55.


#6 paulmac

paulmac

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 3,233 posts

Posted 21 October 2013 - 18:00

I did the report you referenced on the 15/4.5

I also have the 21/1.8 both are excellent but I have no experience of them on the M8 unfortunately.

Cheers, Jason


Great pictures on your review of the 15mm Voigtlander :)
  • janrzm said thank you to this

#7 janrzm

janrzm

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 133 posts
  • LocationNZ
  • City / Ort:Tauranga

Posted 21 October 2013 - 21:00

Great pictures on your review of the 15mm Voigtlander :)


Thanks, I was going to say the same to you, great images, I love that little lens....:)
  • paulmac said thank you to this

#8 LucisPictor

LucisPictor

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Premium Member
  • 1,914 posts
  • City / Ort:Germany, distance to Leica about 60 km ;-)

Posted 22 October 2013 - 10:46

The Voigtlander is a great lens on the M8. No red edges and stunningly sharp right from wide open without any distortion.

It's a no brainer - if you want a truly excellent superwide lens on the M8, the little Voigtlander is the way to go. If you can get a rangefinder coupled one then go for it but optically the older and the new versions of this lens are the same. Depth of field is so great that if you can estimate 1 to 2 meters then you wont go far wrong with focus, so the non rangefinder coupled lens is really easy to use.. Use a 21mm finder on the M8 to take into account the crop factor of the camera.


I completely agree!

-----
Carsten ...

Womit ich fotografiere? Mit einigen Sachen mit 'nem roten Punkt und mit vielen anderen Sachen auch. ;)

Schaut doch mal in meinen Blog: RetroCamera.de
Dort verkaufe ich auch immer mal wieder ein paar Sachen... > Und auch in der "Bucht"...


#9 pfhrased

pfhrased

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 171 posts
  • City / Ort:Wellington, New Zealand

Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:10

It looks like the lens doesn't have a filter thread, although apparently there are people shooting with a filter on, like that guy, would he glue the filter on the lens?:confused:


Two versions: one without the thread, one with. I think the one without was LTM and the one with was M, but I can't remember.

#10 exile

exile

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 314 posts

Posted 22 October 2013 - 15:50

I used a CV 15/4.5 on M8 for a couple of years. It was the uncoupled version. Never had any problems zone focussing. Tiny little lens was great for travel. I used to just jam a polarizing or infra-red filter into the metal lens hood - wrap a broad rubber band around first if you are precious about scratching the filter metal or lens hood.
It was not the most flare resistant lens, and quite low contrast. But the biggest problem was that I found f/4.5 very limiting indoors. When I moved on to an M9 I bought a ZM 21/2.8 biogon which is faster, has richer colours and is more flare resistant.
On the M8 I would consider this CV 15mm against the ZM18mm biogon.

#11 elcap

elcap

    Neuer Benutzer

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 10 posts

Posted 22 October 2013 - 17:58

wow guys, thank you very much for the quick and informative answers!

I am especially interested in the Voigtländer since it's so cheap :)
and I don't think I would go for a WATE, the thing is just too big.

The Voigtlander is a great lens on the M8. No red edges and stunningly sharp right from wide open without any distortion.


this is just the information I needed, I like the field of view on the M8, thanks for the examples!

I did the report you referenced on the 15/4.5


Awesome reviews on your website Jason, the picture of the bridge made me want a really wide lens :D

Good reports about the Voigtlander 21mm f1.8.


is there a filter thread on the Ultron? I would like to use an IR cut filter, otherwise results on the M8 can be rather, let's say interesting, like the tree HERE
(my first few days were without an IR cut filter)

I would definitely go with the rangefinder coupled version of the super wide heliar. can I get the 21mm viewfinder separately?
  • janrzm said thank you to this
http://fixedfocallength.tumblr.com/

Leica M8
Zeiss Biogon 35 f2

#12 luigi bertolotti

luigi bertolotti

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 11,180 posts
  • City / Ort:Brescia

Posted 22 October 2013 - 18:42

wow guys, thank you very much for the quick and informative answers!

....
I would definitely go with the rangefinder coupled version of the super wide heliar. can I get the 21mm viewfinder separately?


Right decision... CV15 is a litlle fine lens and I have even thought to exchange my LTM version with the new one.. for a M8 user like me, the std. (52mm) filter thread is definitely a plus, even more than the RF coupling. You can find lot of posts about in the forum, and, for the viewfinder, look at cameraquest site to find the right solution (www.cameraquest.com : lot of detailed infos on the CV lenses)
  • elcap said thank you to this

#13 sisoje

sisoje

    Erfahrener Benutzer

  • Members
  • 400 posts
  • City / Ort:Toronto

Posted 27 October 2013 - 14:02

VC 15/4.5 was my favorite lens on M8.

Actually, when I had two bodies one was "permanently"paired with this great WA...

I would also go for newer version, mostly because it has proper way of mounting UV/IR filter needed for M8.

When I had my (first version), I used JM's adapter. Now, I have FF Leicas but I still got the second version of the lens. I love it so much, and I am willing to deal with "color issues" on ff sensor...:D
  • elcap said thank you to this
StevenMiric.com


I can't stop after all this time...


0 user(s) are reading this topic

Leica Deals