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Leica M Typ 240: Unreliable or Reliable - Survey


Rick

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This is a survey question for anyone who actually owns the M Typ 240. It is a simple question. Please Answer YES or NO only. There is another thread for discussion. It is the current thread about a blogger that got a camera he judged as unreliable. I'm just curious about a broder sample than just one camera copy. Please update the tally as you post.

 

Do you rate your M Typ 240 as Reliable? Simple as that. Feel free to fairly apply your own definition of reliable when you answer either Yes or No.

 

Thank you.

 

Yes (1)

No (0)

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Mark Twain comes to mind, quote:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

This survey is about as meaningful as the one about color. :eek:

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Mark Twain comes to mind, quote:

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

This survey is about as meaningful as the one about color. :eek:

 

Yes, and that thread put an abrupt end to the thread about bad color by those "experts" that did not own the camera or know what they were talking about. Kind of left many with egg on face.

 

That thread was 30 to ZERO in favor of ok color at this time. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/285382-customer-satisfaction-m240-color-survey.html

 

This is simply an owners question. I know that you can't or won't follow directions, but please take your "expertise" and comments to the appropriate thread. Vote "No" if you have a problem with reliability and let the chips fall where they may.

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Yes, and that thread put an abrupt end to the thread about bad color by those "experts" that did not own the camera or know what they were talking about. Kind of left many with egg on face.

 

That thread was 30 to ZERO in favor of ok color at this time. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/285382-customer-satisfaction-m240-color-survey.html

 

This is simply an owners question. I know that you can't or won't follow directions, but please take your "expertise" and comments to the appropriate thread. Vote "No" if you have a problem with reliability and let the chips fall where they may.

 

I'm certain that the survey eliminated all further questions about color with the new M. ;)

 

Or it could be that it just died an overdue death from pedantic evisceration. Plenty of threads on the LUF have been know to die that way.

 

I do take issue with the statement that the people in that discussion (or who you reference in your 'survey' on reliability) don't know what they are talking about should they happen to take a different viewpoint than you. Most of the posts at the end of the corpulent color thread talked about the profiles people were using to achieve a look that they wanted to achieve.

 

I think that many posters/M users stepped away from the pissing contest and simply found a stop-gap work around until a new profile/firmware update is released. Such are the learned experiences one gains by being a Leica early adopter.

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Kurt - Here is the problem. Almost everyone on that thread commenting on the crappy color ended up being those that did not have the camera. Everyone else that owned the camera said that the color was ok but could be improved, probably, with an updated profile.

 

Some claimed expertise, but clearly did not know what they were talking about because, they did not have a camera to test, just jpegs and some DNGs posted on the internet. Yet, the discussion ran on into areas, such as, the bayer color filter array being flawed and other such nonsense that no one was expert or knowledgable enough to know what they were talking about, yet, they still proclaimed it was crappy.

 

Questions like Reliable yes/no and the my Color Survey question are simply designed to ask those that actually own and use the camera what they think. Yes/No. It doesn't add to the body of knowledge of the details, such as, the degree to which the color is good or the degree of the reliability.

 

I happen to believe that current owners have first hand knowledge that adds perspective to the several thousand posts from people who don't actually own the camera. Current owners have proven to be some pretty sharp people when it comes to understanding their own camera. Not that we can't learn something from those that don't own the camera and are dry-labbing it. But, if you were a person that currently has the camera on-order you certainly would want to know if these issues are a deal breaker to those that have bought it, wouldn't you?

 

Think of it this way. Imagine a bunch of people that have never had sex trying to describe it. The thread would, I'm sure, run on for pages and pages as people described sex and proclaimed their expertise and knowledge. But, at some point, someone has to ask: Those of you that have actually had sex... was it good? Yes or no?:rolleyes:

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Mine is reliable. Never had a problem.

 

I offended someone when I wrote about the tale of the fox and thre grape in the tread about colors, but this is the point.

Too many experts commenting a camera they never used

 

RickLeica got the point

 

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