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#1 paulmac

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:45

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Just out of interest:

Was the 135mm Tele Elmar an APO lens in all but name. Reason I ask is, I have one and if the focus is right it's an amazingly good lens.
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#2 Michael Hiles

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 18:09

I believe it is for all good purposes an apo lens (others will know for sure). I have one and it is outstanding. Excellent contrast, very sharp - it holds up well against current lenses, IMO. But I don't use it much. It fits very well with my M3 and its .92 viewfinder.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 18:45

I love this lens because of its sharpness, but I don't think, that it is an APO-lens.

The first apochromatic lens - as far I know - was the Voigtländer Apo-Lanthar 1.4,5 105mm from 1952 for the large 4x5 inch format.

I think, - referring to Marco Cavina (LEITZ - sorry, it is in Italian) - that the first 135mm Leica Apo-lens is the 1998 introduced Apo-Telyt, which underlines the class of the Tele-Elmar.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 23:19

The Tele-Elmar 135/4 has 5 elements in 3 groups, none of them being apo AFAIK.
http://www.l-camera-..._f/4_Tele-Elmar
The Apo-Telyt-R 180/3.4 is from 1975 BTW.
http://www.l-camera-...3.4_APO-Telyt-R

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 00:08

It is an amazing lens, especially taking into consideration that is was first produced in 1965! I bought one a few years ago and I like it a lot. I use it much more often than the Elmart 135mm (II) that I also have. The Tele Elmar handles a lot easier and is amazingly sharp, and I like its color rendition a lot.
And as an extra, I can use the lens head on the Bellows II on Visoflex.
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#6 k-hawinkler

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 00:12

Just out of interest:

Was the 135mm Tele Elmar an APO lens in all but name. Reason I ask is, I have one and if the focus is right it's an amazingly good lens.



Yup, I agree.
In any case it's a high performance, inexpensive lens and
my most often used lens for landscape shots. :)
The terrain here in Northern New Mexico is well suited for that. :)

With an adapter and short mount the lens head also works very well on my D800E.
Unless you have the latest version where the lens head is firmly attached.
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#7 lct

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 00:16

The Elmar is taller but lighter and is very good as well.
http://www.l-camera-...mar_1:4_/_135mm
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 19:38

not APO, but very close
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 21:03

I have a Tele-Elmar with removable head, 2420xxx. Does anyone know about the Tele-Elmar-M E46 with the telescoping hood? Is this latest iteration much better than the one I currently have?

Edited by algrove, 11 February 2013 - 21:06.

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#10 lct

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 21:32

I have no experience with them but they share the same optics AFAIK. I don't know if they have the same coating though.
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#11 UliWer

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 22:09

The prefix "Apo" has not so much to do with resolution, sharpness or contrast. It suggests that the lens has been corrected against chromatic aberrations: Apochromat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may try it by taking a photo of fine dark structures with much light in the background. (Tree brances without leaves against the open sky for example). With a "normal - non "apo" lens - you will see "fringing" or violet/green/orange rims on the black structures: chromatic aberrations. With very high resolution and contrast the risk of high chromatic aberrations rise - the 50mm Summilux asph sometimes shows rather high chromatc aberrations in certain situations.

I recently tried out different lenses in the 90mm-range. The 4/90 Elmar with three lenses, which has rather high resolution and contrast showed some chromatic aberrations. The 90mm Summicron Apo-Aspherical - which is supposed to be especially corrected for these situations - showed certainly less, though still some. The 1.5/85 mm Summarex - more than sixty years old - showed none at all - with resolution and contrast rather high at f/8 but still behind the other two lenses.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:04

I so seldom use my APO 135, I have taken my Tele-Elmar 135 with removable head down to my Palm Beach dealer along with a Visoflex III and a Visoflex I. Perhaps a mistake, but it's done now.
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