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#1 jaapv

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 19:30

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I copied some older posts from other threads into this one


Post your experiences with old lenses here.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 19:38

Canon 35/2.8 1958/59
Sharp, lowish contrast, about par with the Summicron 35 iii. (ISO 2000)

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:04

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Monochrom & Jupiter3 50mm f1.5 (1962 mod.) images 1-3
Last image is with Jupiter12 35mm f2.8 (1957 model- same vintage as me).

I just love the way the older lenses render on the Monochrom!
The newer lenses while being technologically "superior" etc. are just too clinically sharp when combined with the Monochrom IMO.
So as not to hijack Jaap's thread, I'll post some comparisons on another thread.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:30

it's not very old by leica standards, but a 1982 75mm summilux seems to work ok on the MM. (iso 400, f2)

thanks for starting this thread, jaap

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 19:25

Elmarit 90 2.8 1961, @ f4
Simply an excellent lens, somewhat lower contrast than a more modern one.



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Posted 02 December 2012 - 05:33

i love the Jupiter3 rendering. excellent images. please continue on...at some point (if not now) you're going to convince me to get the MM
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:24

Agree. I'll get out my Summarit.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:42

Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm f1.5 LTM (1950 model).
(The Jupiter3 50mm is a clone of this CZ Sonnar).


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Posted 02 December 2012 - 12:39

They work as well as they did on film. Problem is digi is more visually sensitive to flare from light sources just outside or in the frame. Well not more, but what we had to accept in the past we may not accept now.

If you got good pics on film, it will make good pics on MM providing the focus is set to match the camera.

In my opinion, low contrast is good because it can always be raised some, but it is hard to get rid of it if there is too much just like film.

Naturally they will not be as sharp as a modern lens at wide stops.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 17:20

MM with 50mm Cron Version 2 fixed. Orange filter also.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 20:28

They work as well as they did on film. Problem is digi is more visually sensitive to flare from light sources just outside or in the frame. Well not more, but what we had to accept in the past we may not accept now.

If you got good pics on film, it will make good pics on MM providing the focus is set to match the camera.

In my opinion, low contrast is good because it can always be raised some, but it is hard to get rid of it if there is too much just like film.

Naturally they will not be as sharp as a modern lens at wide stops.

Without having an explanation, I get the impression old lenses perform better on the MM than they do on the M9 or film.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:20

[schmal]Without having an explanation, I get the impression old lenses perform better on the M Monochrom than they do on the M9 or film.[/schmal]

The explanation is very simple: The M Monochrom has better resolution than M9 or film, and it shows—with any lens. As I always keep saying ... :cool:

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:48

I loaded up the 8.5cm Summarex on the mono. Shot wide open, ISO 640

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:20

sorry, forgot the 100% crop, now attached.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:44

Why make a new thread instead of continuing the "Leica and old glass" thread?
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:10

Without having an explanation, I get the impression old lenses perform better on the MM than they do on the M9 or film.


You are probably right but that statement does come across as a classic piece of 'Jaapism'.:)
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:44

There is something about older lenses that just translates so well on the Monochrom.
Perception. Not perfection

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 16:15

Monochrom & Leitz Summar 5cm f2 (1938 model).
Fairly acceptable for a 74 year old lens, shot at f2 & ISO800.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 18:19

You are probably right but that statement does come across as a classic piece of 'Jaapism'.:)

:D:DWell, if 01AF agrees it must be gospel..:P

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 15:31

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A couple of M Monochrom shots, using my 1969 copy of the 90mm Tele-Elmarit "fat" version 1. Wide open at f2.8, incidentally.

You can clearly see the fabled "glow" on either side of the picture of the band (The Fall, at Glasgow's Arches, for anyone interested), but I quite like it. It's certainly a sharp lens at the centre of the frame, and ever so compact.

Best wishes, all.

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