Moggele Posted June 30, 2012 Share #1 Posted June 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I´m missing a thread about the not always be loved M4-2 so here´s the beginning: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2052265'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Hi Moggele, Take a look here I love my M4-2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
maddoc2003jp Posted July 2, 2012 Share #2 Posted July 2, 2012 Good idea !! http://www.pbase.com/gsamj/image/141414177/medium.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lphong Posted July 19, 2012 Share #3 Posted July 19, 2012 I have been waiting for this thread for soooo long. Bought this in Jan 07, my first Leica, it is still my main camera. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2066274'>More sharing options...
normclarke Posted July 24, 2012 Share #4 Posted July 24, 2012 You were correct, not many fans for the M4-2. I am on my second version of this model and can honestly say I can find nothing to gripe about. It came from the evilbay all the way from France, it was as described in need of some TLC, an early model which had been somewhat neglected. It cleaned up fine and with a new rewind knob and a few internal tweaks now supplies all I need. The hype that besets this model keeps the price lower than an M2/4, personaly this suites me as I would rather have a newer model, and this is the last model to have the more accurate frame lines that were replaced in the M4P. Best, normclarke. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckrider Posted July 24, 2012 Share #5 Posted July 24, 2012 ... the not always be loved M4-2... M4-2 was the actual build M when I startet to be a Leicanian so many yrs. ago. My first Leica became a R3 safari, but M4-2 is still the "which would You take to a far away island" camera. First variant with the bigger M4 knob for lens unlock is the most attractive for me. Even Gold model M4-2 With Lux 50 became that cheap, I'm thinking to get me one.... & paint 'em black:D Thomas Thanks for starting this treat! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moggele Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted July 26, 2012 Here is the original product information (german version): Leica M4-2.pdf 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddoc2003jp Posted July 27, 2012 Share #7 Posted July 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) With a 5cm NKJ Nikkor-H-C (S-mount) ... and dust not removed Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2072593'>More sharing options...
Giacomo.B Posted August 6, 2012 Share #8 Posted August 6, 2012 I love my M4-2 too, she is a great camera! Ciao Giacomo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joop van Heijgen Posted August 6, 2012 Share #9 Posted August 6, 2012 Walter Kluck, the Man who Saved the Leica M System http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62799 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomo.B Posted August 9, 2012 Share #10 Posted August 9, 2012 If someone wanted to participate in this discussion... http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-collectors-historica/249709-leica-m4-2-m4-p-variants.html Ciao Giacomo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp.velvia Posted August 20, 2012 Share #11 Posted August 20, 2012 Here is my "new" M4-2 with a Summicron 50mm III. Isn`t she a beauty? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2090875'>More sharing options...
trisberg Posted September 9, 2012 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2012 Might not be the most popular, but I think it's the best value in the M line. Found a clean one on eBay. -Thomas Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2109093'>More sharing options...
Giacomo.B Posted September 10, 2012 Share #13 Posted September 10, 2012 Great combo Thomas with Vc 35mm f1,4 Sc the result are "more vintage".. Ciao Giacomo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomo.B Posted September 10, 2012 Share #14 Posted September 10, 2012 The Film Family..... Ciao Giacomo Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2109695'>More sharing options...
nikau Posted September 11, 2012 Share #15 Posted September 11, 2012 I like this thread, too. I bought an M4-2 new in 1984 and it has served me without even one problem. I treated it to a CLA some years ago and nothing unusual was found. I tried to sell it some years ago when I was thinking of upgrading to an M6ttl but interest was zero. Now, I'm glad that was the case! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAX Posted September 11, 2012 Share #16 Posted September 11, 2012 ...LEICA M 4 - 2 " 100 Jahre Oskar Barnack " Die Kamera dürfte wohl nach Zuschlag erst einmal hier hin - für einen Kuraufenthalt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp.velvia Posted October 20, 2012 Share #17 Posted October 20, 2012 New picture of my "new" camera Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2145665'>More sharing options...
de-JTC Posted December 4, 2012 Share #18 Posted December 4, 2012 Some markings, recovered with Griptac, freshly filled engravings, VC 35/1.4 Nokton and an Abrahamsson Rapidwinder. Usually filled with TriX. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/182819-i-love-my-m4-2/?do=findComment&comment=2181556'>More sharing options...
cobbu2 Posted September 23, 2013 Share #19 Posted September 23, 2013 Ok all you M4-2 owners, here's your chance to express your affection for the camera that really saved the Leica M series before the M4-P. One only needs to read the story of Mr. Walter Kluck, president of Ernst Leitz, Canada here. He convinced Leitz Wetzlar management to start M4 production in Midland Canada because of disappointing sales of the M5, the decrease in overall sales of rangefinder cameras, and rising labor costs in Germany that led Leitz to decide to discontinue the M line. While CEO at Leitz's Canadian subsidiary where most M lenses were made, he knew that Leitz Canada would be adversely affected by the loss of M business. He advocated for continuing the production of the M body and had the machines used in producing M4 parts in Wetzlar moved to the Midland factory years earlier along with supervisory experts and other specialists. So the original tooling, machinery, drawings and key personnel were in place. All that remained was "know-how" for the production staff. That would come in time. The M4-2 production run has become unfairly stigmatized by a reputation from the first production run of 2000 bodies, where new production methods were being ironed out. Supposedly if one avoids these serial numbers, 1468001 to 1482000, it isn't logical judge the entire M4-2 production run the same way. In a relative sense, the M4-2 set the standard for all subsequent Leica Ms to the M7 in overall configuration (no self-timer, steel gears for the winder, hot shoe, etc.) with the exception of added frame lines and other small refinements. See this article. Keep in mind also that these serial numbered bodies, if still in circulation should have had their issues solved by now. So unless it's in never-used mint condition still in its box, it should be fine! I guess a positive consequence of that stigma is it keep M4-2 prices relatively low! My M4-2, (SN 1503311, April 1978, from the second batch to be made), after that first run of 2000, works perfectly, almost imperceptibly smoother than my classic M6. After that first 2000, Leitz Canada went on to produce another 14,000 until the introduction of the M4-P. So let's show our pride (and gratitude) for the real M series unsung hero, the M4-2! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbu2 Posted October 1, 2013 Share #20 Posted October 1, 2013 this one really looks a sensational camera to me, i just liked it a lot, how much did it cost? I purchased it (body only) through the big online auction site for $550, on average at least $250 less than what they usually go for. Exterior finish-wise, it's definitely a "user," but its internal workings are great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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