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Leitz 800mm f6.3 Telyt-S ... arrived today


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#1 dkCambridgeshire

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 21:31

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Leitz 800mm f6.3 Telyt-S in dedicated case by s4sargent, on Flickr

This is not the lens which was on Ebay recently - that one was far too expensive; this one was sourced in the UK. I have only seen one other listed by a UK dealer approx 15 years ago. I plan to transport this and a couple of tripods to a 500 acre local country park in a bike cart - where I can ride the bike pulling the cart behind me.

Total weight when in the dedicated case is 13.2 Kilos ; case is 5 kilos thus lens weighs 8.2 Kilos; total length is just over 1 meter c/w lens hood attached. Add the camera plus tripods to that and it would not be feasible or practical to carry the outfit - but the bike cart with a layer of foam in the bottom should cope OK (with the lens in the dedicated case)


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Leitz 800mm f6.3 Telyt-S and Leitz 560mm f6.8 Telyt-R by s4sargent, on Flickr

To compare the 800m f6.3 and and 560mm f6.8 Telyt lenses .


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Leitz 800mm f6.3 Telyt-S rear section with Series VII filter hinged carrier/slot by s4sargent, on Flickr

The rear filter is very practical - the lens' front element is 104mm / 5.5 inches diameter.


Looking forward to using the lens soon with a DMR - effective focal length will be 1096mm; will also be tried with a 1.4x and 2x convertors to see if feasible to obtain sharp images using two tripods and a Manfrotto 393 heavy lens support. However, that might be 'pushing it a bit' ref the DMR's not so high usable ISO thresholds at this time of year. I have previously used a Manfrotto 359-1 long lens' camera support to stabilise the camera and 560mm lens but found it awkward; thus plan to use two tripods ie a separate tripod for the camera. I have an Arca 'Cube Head' which will take the weight and also enable very fine adjustment of the lens for accurate framing.

Most collectors are probably aware of the lens' attributes and the special glass formulated to make the lens possible. TELYT

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 22:04

Very nice, thanks for sharing!
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 22:42

Congratulations, I'd sure like to see it with a camera hanging off the end of it if you should get around to snapping a shot of it.
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 22:50

Congratulations, I'd sure like to see it with a camera hanging off the end of it if you should get around to snapping a shot of it.


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Posted 04 January 2012 - 23:05

Congratulations
Now you are the third owner I know :)
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Posted 04 January 2012 - 23:14

Great! :D

you can see one of the first Lenses of the Leitz 800mm in this Film about the drama of "Munich 72" look at 2:10 .......;)

Olympische Spiele München 1972 - Die wahre Geschichte - Teil 3/6 - Doku - YouTube

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 23:58

Congratulations
Now you are the third owner I know :)



I'm aware Luigi has one - I recall he has both the R and M end tubes.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 00:38

Dunk:

Amazing lens! My longest lens is the 350mm f4.8 Telyt that I use with the rifle stock. I just can't imagine how I would go about using this behomoth!

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:14

Welcome to the 800 club Dunk !!! A lens that is easier to photograph than to take photographs with...:D.
Yours is surely a 2.500.<what?> mine is .874 ... and, you remember right, I got an adapter for Viso mount...
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:42

Welcome to the 800 club Dunk !!! A lens that is easier to photograph than to take photographs with...:D.
Yours is surely a 2.500.<what?> mine is .874 ... and, you remember right, I got an adapter for Viso mount...
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Hi Luigi, That is an excellent photo of your 800mm. I'm trying to reconcile 2500 and .874 :confused: ... Can you please explain?

Is your M adaptor an original Leica part or was it custom made?

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:02

Congratulations to all of you owners! :)
Could you please post some pictures, taken with your impressive lenses?
I think I have seen one from Luigi.
Thanks.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:10

I'm trying to reconcile 2500 and .874 :confused: ... Can you please explain?dunk



SN Start SN End Product Year Total

2411061 2411061 800mm f/6.3 Telyt-S 1970 1
2500651 2501000 800mm f/6.3 Telyt-S 1971 350

TOTAL ASSIGNED SERIAL NUMBERS 1970-1971 351
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:16

Hi Luigi, That is an excellent photo of your 800mm. I'm trying to reconcile 2500 and .874 :confused: ... Can you please explain?

Is your M adaptor an original Leica part or was it custom made?

Best wishes

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Ahh! Mine's .797 ... thanks :)

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:22

Hi Luigi, That is an excellent photo of your 800mm. I'm trying to reconcile 2500 and .874 :confused: ... Can you please explain?

Is your M adaptor an original Leica part or was it custom made?

Best wishes

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2500 refers to s/n : see JC explanation... indeed they assigned 351 numbers, but made less than 200 (in theory, it was offered also with Minolta SLR mount... never seen or heard of one like that...)

My adaptor has been custome made, building a substitute for the component hereby encircled in red : luckily, it's rather long to allow the longer flange distance of the Visoflex: it is a permanent modification... but I haven't any R body, and, in case, one can anyway mount the normal Viso lenses-for-R adapter...:o

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:12

[schmal]I plan to transport this and a couple of tripods to a 500-acre local country park in a bike cart—where I can ride the bike pulling the cart behind me.[/schmal]

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Don't!

What a crazy idea! The bumps and vibrations will damage the delicate lens ... or at least the risk is very high. If you really must transport the Telyt-S (or any long telephoto lens) by bike then put at least the part(s) of the barrel(s) with the lens elements into a rucksack and carry that on your back. The rest—i. e. the tripods, the case, and the glassless barrel parts—may go into the cart. And better don't fall ...
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:33

:eek:

Don't!

What a crazy idea! The bumps and vibrations will damage the delicate lens ... or at least the risk is very high. If you really must transport the Telyt-S (or any long telephoto lens) by bike then put at least the part(s) of the barrel(s) with the lens elements into a rucksack and carry that on your back. The rest—i. e. the tripods, the case, and the glassless barrel parts—may go into the cart. And better don't fall ...


Well, I agree is better to take care of this lens... :)... but its original case has a foam interior which acts as a good protection for bumps/vibrations... imho has a "right" consistence, and the separate parts are rather "simple" in themselves... the most delicate one is the front element which hosts the big glass triplet. Anyway, your idea of a rucksack (properly equipped and dimensioned... :o) is very good... I think I'll start to search for something like... carrying the case in your hand is definitely terrible...

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 14:26

:eek:

Don't!

What a crazy idea! The bumps and vibrations will damage the delicate lens ... or at least the risk is very high. If you really must transport the Telyt-S (or any long telephoto lens) by bike then put at least the part(s) of the barrel(s) with the lens elements into a rucksack and carry that on your back. The rest—i. e. the tripods, the case, and the glassless barrel parts—may go into the cart. And better don't fall ...



Not such a crazy idea . I am aware of the fact that there will be some vibrations ... but ... my bike trailer has fat tyres ... I can line the trailer with additional foam ... and the lens will be in a padded backpack . When I am cycling on the roads the vibration will be minimal; when I reach the park the cycle tracks are flat and I'll be doing more walking with the bike than riding . I doubt if the lens will be subjected to much more vibration than if transported in a car boot. I am endeavouring to source a bigger backpack; this is my large Tenba which is not big enough and has no room for the camera. It has been used with other long lenses (560mm f5.6 Telyt) in my bike trailer.

If I cannot source a larger backpack, part(s) of the lens will be transported in a Billingham 555 - in the bike trailer

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800mm f6.3 Telyt-S in Tenba backpack by s4sargent, on Flickr

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 22:12

800/6.3 has to be at least 127 mm wide at the lens. It would be interesting to put it on a hasselblad 2000 and see what format coverage it has

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:09

800/6.3 has to be at least 127 mm wide at the lens. It would be interesting to put it on a hasselblad 2000 and see what format coverage it has


Interesting, yes, but given that Hasselblad has a flange distance even longer than Leica M+Viso II/III (74,9 vs. 68,8 mm) I am not so sure one can build an adapter rather "easy to machine", as has been the one that I had made for my Telyt... having taken a number of measures to design it (several months ago) I even doubt that it is feasible...

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:40

as has been the one that I had made for my Telyt... having taken a number of measures to design it (several months ago)


And now Luigi, does it works ?
Would like to see a pict taken with your combo.
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