Leica IIIF with strange SN 673034

[VeeGeelde]

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Hi, Can someone please help me with my IIIF camera? I cannot find out whether this is a true IIIF camera or a conversion. It has a selftimer, and a Black dial. Shutterspeeds are

B,25,50,75,100,200,500,100 and at the front1,2,5,25,15,10.. The engraving is Leica DBP ErnstLeitz GMBH Wetzlar Germany, SN 673034. This seems to be a leica IF according to what I found on the Internet.

I hope someone can help. Many thanks!

Hans

[J_Thompson]

According to the data I have, Hans, you have a IIIf produced in 1953. I'm not a collector, but it seems normal to me.

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[VeeGeelde]

Thanks John. Which database did you use?

[jc_braconi]

Yes it is a If upgraded to IIIf 1953/54

 

you can use the sticky thread in top of this forum

[250swb]

I would think its stretching credibility to say a If can be updated to IIIf configuration considering a If has no rangefinder mechanism.

 

If it has no rangefinder its a If upgraded with slow shutter speeds and a self timer. Its not a IIIf if it doesn't have a rangefinder.

 

Steve

[diser]

considering a If has no rangefinder mechanism.

I (A) cameras didn't have rangefinders either ;-)

[greyelm]

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This is my 1929 I factory converted to a II.

 

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[J_Thompson]

Thanks John. Which database did you use?

 

The Leica Pocket Pod, compiled by Erwin Puts, available as a PDF download on his website, Tao of Leica.

 

http://www.imx.nl/photo/downloads/files/page70-leicapocket_pod1.pdf

[250swb]

The Leica Pocket Pod, compiled by Erwin Puts, available as a PDF download on his website, Tao of Leica.

 

http://www.imx.nl/photo/downloads/files/page70-leicapocket_pod1.pdf

 

But that list agrees with the others (Cameraquest and Leica), its a If not a IIIf? If the OP could confirm if it does have a rangefinder perhaps as its only 33 serial numbers away from the changeover there is an overlap from the IIIf to the If batch?

 

Steve

Edited April 24, 2011 by 250swb

[giordano]

Steve, in those days the upgrades offered by Leica included adding a rangefinder to "I" cameras, slow speeds to "I" and "II", and synchronisation to "c" series. So upgrading a If to IIIf was nothing extraordinary.

[luigi bertolotti]

Conversions of If to IIf/IIIf were available from Leitz, as standard listed "upgrades"... no much time ago, in this section, a member even posted the copy of the page of a Leica pricelist with the above (and others, too... also "c" models could be upgraded).

[VeeGeelde]

The Leica Pocket Pod, compiled by Erwin Puts, available as a PDF download on his website, Tao of Leica.

 

http://www.imx.nl/photo/downloads/files/page70-leicapocket_pod1.pdf

 

Thank you all very much. So if I get it right; it was originally an IF camera that was upgraded to a IIIF. Does that mean that they took over the IF serial number onto the new topplate? My camera does have a range/view finder!

May thanks to all who tried to help me. Much appreciated!

Hans

[jc_braconi]

Conversions of If to IIf/IIIf were available from Leitz, as standard listed "upgrades"... no much time ago, in this section, a member even posted the copy of the page of a Leica pricelist with the above (and others, too... also "c" models could be upgraded).

 

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[jc_braconi]

Does that mean that they took over the IF serial number onto the new topplate? !

Hans

 

Absolutely !

[Dan Ryan]

Greyelm - that is a sweet looking machine.

 

Dan

[VeeGeelde]

Many thanks to all. I am glad to learn that it was updated by Leica.