dkCambridgeshire Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9361 Posted February 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wilson, You've included the French connection which is correct. The car is an 1898 International Benz manufactured by Emile Roger and is part of the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Your turn again Wilson. Best wishes dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Your turn again Wilson. Best wishes dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3219766'>More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9362 Posted February 23, 2017 This is a very difficult one, so I am going to show the whole car or at least as much of it as there was in my original photo. I did ask the guy in the flying jacket if he could please move a bit so I could get a better photo. "No I am talking to someone" was his answer. If is just not worth continuing a conversation with someone like that. I have blanked out the name on the front of the car and the coachbuilder, as they not only contain a clue but the name is also wrong. The name shown on the car, did not exist until 4 years after this car was made or so my Georgano Encyclopaedia of the Automobile says and Nick is usually correct. The answer BTW is not Thomas the Tank Engine Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3219843'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9363 Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) I was about to write Thomas The Tank Engine but then I think Thomas is blue ;-) Following your comments this might not be correct either, but I give it a try: Delaugère 2¾ CV Voiturette (from 1902)? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaug%C3%A8re_%26_Clayette#/media/File:Delaugere-Clayette_1902.JPG Edited February 23, 2017 by a.j.z Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9364 Posted February 23, 2017 Andreas, I would give you that but I feel it might be from the Clayette part of the enterprise. Delaugère generally made much bigger and heavier cars than this, virtually all from 1902 with 4 cylinders and later 6 or 8. Delaugère merged with Clayette in 1906. Given that they were the third biggest automobile makers in France at the time, after Panhard and de Dion Bouton, there is a surprising lack of information about them. They went on for far longer than most people remember, mostly making specialised vehicles for the French government, like fire engines and military chassis. They were eventually bought by Panhard in 1934. From the photo, you can see that the owner thinks it is a Delaugère Clayette. My apologies on Thomas, it should of course have been James Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3220093'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9365 Posted February 23, 2017 Thanks! I do not know much about brass era cars but I am a god investigator ;-) And now for something completely different ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3220222'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9366 Posted February 23, 2017 If not for the steel wheels instead of spoked wheels I'd think it a Cunningham C1 or C2R, but I'm probably wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9367 Posted February 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is this the Rover Jet 1 replica? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9368 Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Yes, Wilson, you are right! You can see the jet engine here: https://www.ventilspiel.at/news/rover-turbinenwagen/ It is pretty slow though. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 23, 2017 by a.j.z Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3220392'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 23, 2017 Share #9369 Posted February 23, 2017 Andreas, What it needs is the Honeywell T55-715 engine out of one of the later Boeing Chinooks - 5,800 HP - it would not have been so lacking in performance then However, all credit is due to the builder for making this beautiful replica. It is just great that there are nutcases like that around. It must have been a tad humiliating however being overtaken by a Mini van in the video at I think, the Red Bull Ring. Will look for another car tomorrow. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 24, 2017 Share #9370 Posted February 24, 2017 He was overtaken by most of the participants (not by the Berlin Rome car though) but some of the cars are not what they look like at first glance, as the engines are quite often not original ;-) For instance there was a FiPo (Fiat with Porsche engine) who could not even close the engine bonnet ... Yes, it is the Red Bull Ring. Very nice race track. The Ventilspiel (literally translated "valve play") is an annual event where people race around the Ring in their classic cars in four different categories (formula cars, GT and two other). It is officially not a race but the target in theory is to achieve the same lap times. However, it is quite civilized and the two times I participated there were no accidents (but of course a lot of defects). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 24, 2017 Share #9371 Posted February 24, 2017 Here is your next one. Not too easy so I am showing the whole car but with name blanked out and also its plate, as knowing you lot, you would be googling the number immediately. I also think the date is misleading, as I think the car is a year older than the date on the plate. Make and model please. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3220837'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2017 Share #9372 Posted February 25, 2017 Hint - this car was not made in the country now associated with it. This is a very different sort of car from the much smaller later vehicles which most think of when this maker is mentioned. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 25, 2017 Share #9373 Posted February 25, 2017 French? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adespen Posted February 25, 2017 Share #9374 Posted February 25, 2017 Fiat 1919 tourer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2017 Share #9375 Posted February 25, 2017 Neither the country you would associate it with nor the country it was built in is France. This car was a competitor for the top makes of the country it was made in. The company has moved a long way down market since. Wilson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2017 Share #9376 Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Fiat 1919 tourer? Right make, wrong model. Don't be fooled by the well base tyres. A much later modification. This car should be on beaded edge tyres. Edited February 25, 2017 by wlaidlaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 1, 2017 Share #9377 Posted March 1, 2017 Bump Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 1, 2017 Share #9378 Posted March 1, 2017 It has an 8.6 litre engine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 2, 2017 Share #9379 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) American FIAT Type 56 c.1912 dunk Edited March 2, 2017 by dkCambridgeshire Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 2, 2017 Share #9380 Posted March 2, 2017 Correct Dunk. These FIATs were made in Poughkeepsie, NY and were a competitor for Cadillac, Pierce Arrow, Packard etc. It was a fairly short lived venture and by the early 20's Poughkeepsie was demoted to a service and importing depot and FIAT was only making smaller cars in Italy. I bet the FIAT is a pig to steer with those well base tyres. Cars designed to run on beaded edge tyres are rarely improved by changing to well base tyres, although they are less prone to punctures, are cheaper and last longer. The well base will run at about 35 psi against the beaded edge at around 75-90 PSI which also have a lot less rubber on the road. I used to drive an Silver Ghost "Tiger Hunting" car with open but very heavy bodywork. It had been converted to well base tyres. If it was parked on tarmac, it was totally impossible to move the steering when stationary and not that much easier when on the move. I persuaded the owner to change back to beaded edge, which I admit looked a bit puny on this huge car but it transformed how pleasant it was to drive. Below is a picture of the FIAT factory in Poughkeepsie from an old postcard. We were having lunch in a hotel somewhere near Burlington, Vermont and when we came out, we found all these pre-WW1 cars. Unfortunately at that point it started to pour with rain and it was a horrible grey day with nasty flat light, so I did not take that many photos. The most interesting to me were a couple of Doble steamers, which I had never seen before. It was obviously a pretty upmarket gathering, as all the cars were top makes, mostly US: Cadillacs, Packards, Pierces, Marmons, etc but also a Ghost, a Lorraine Dietrich, a Mercedes (no Benz) and a vast Isotta Fraschini - no Oldsmobiles or Model T's. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3225112'>More sharing options...
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