Royal Ivory

[lambroving]

Record shot of this year's hired 4/4 for the big annual Morgan Gathering in the U.K... Ron will have the definitive "photograph" when he returns from Cornwall, as he took a great many. This color, (same as my Plus 8) is very difficult to capture as it's very rich and creamy but not too dark, also richer than MB 623 Hellelfenbein. Never seen a digital shot come close...

MP .58, 35/2 ASPH, 100 UC

[richam]

William,
Lovely car. But overexposed. Highlight details are lost in the light color of the car. Better to underexpose a bit and let the background go darker as a result. Don't know if you can do anything in Photoshop with it, but maybe.
Mike

[lambroving]

Originally Posted by richam

William,
Lovely car. But overexposed. Highlight details are lost in the light color of the car. Better to underexpose a bit and let the background go darker as a result. Don't know if you can do anything in Photoshop with it, but maybe.
Mike

Thanks, Mike!

Print looks fine. So did my monitor. Guess I have to get used to this site. Here's one more try with a slight levels adjustment rather than "auto levels" which usually works with these scans just fine. You know me and PS!

[hamey]

William.

Just lovely.

Ken.

[pinetar]

Nice interior. I had a 61 plus 4 drophead and a 60 plus 4.

[fotografr]

The adjusted photo looks spot on to me. That IS the definitive 4/4 shot and it makes me drool for one of those things. Now if I could just come up with a spare $100,000 (for the down payment).

[andybarton]

"Your usual parking space, Mr Lamb?"

"Why, thank you my good man, here's thre'pence for your trouble"



The second one shows some tuskiness colour in the car, whereas the first was verging on "Arctic Snow with a hint of Birds' Custard" on my two Mac monitors.

[robert_parker]

The white, a little like another colour called 'Old English White' is hard to reproduce exactly as there is a depth as well as a hint of brown in the cream - the second comes about as near as I've seen it - maybe the red in the seats was better in the first though - shows you can't please everybody all of the time !!

[robert_parker]

I trust William will forgive me posting on his thread - here's another famous British car using the consumer equivalent of Royal Ivory (Old English White)

Morris-Traveller-Old-Englis.jpg

The shiny side of the bonnet (hood) is about the nearest rendition of the true colour.

[lambroving]

Ken,

Thanks! Ron thought it was pretty cute too...

Gary,

These ride a LOT better. My Plus 8 is Royal Ivory, but my trim is a deeper red Connolly Autolux, piped black, and my weather equipment is black Rivenhood rather than Everflex.

Brent,

These puppies aren't that dear. The car is listed on Wykehams site for 19,500 GBP or about $37,000, but the last 4/4's imported here were in 1995 before OBD II became mandatory, so you'd have to figure out a way to get it in the country, and of course, the steering wheel's on the wrong side. You need a car like mine, only I think I have the only Royal Ivory Plus 8 with a 4.0 in the U.S....

Andy,

Yes, naturally...

Rob,

Had an OBW 4/4 in 2002 with a Focus 1.8. It's a lot lighter than this standard Morgan (one of 5) color. Your shot makes Leyland OBW look much darker than I remember it. That IS, of course, the only other Moggie.

[pinetar]

Originally Posted by fotografr

The adjusted photo looks spot on to me. That IS the definitive 4/4 shot and it makes me drool for one of those things. Now if I could just come up with a spare $100,000 (for the down payment).

The 4/4 is a four seater, the plus 4 is a 2 seater.

[lambroving]

Gary,

A 4/4 is a 4-cylinder, 4-wheel (rather than three-wheeler) Morgan. A Plus 4 is a Morgan with a bit more... At various times, four-seaters have been built as both 4/4's and Plus 4's. Peter Morgan would never permit a Plus 8 four-seater after a lawsuit he settled here in the late 60's. Only this year can you obtain a four-seater 225 BHP 6-cylinder "Roadster". Some Plus 8 four-seaters were built in the past by specialist Morgan agents including some DHC's, but never by the Morgan Motor Co.

You can view the current range here. Morgan Motor Company Home Page

[robert_parker]

William

You're right the shot of the Morris looks as if it's aged somewhat - I'll look out for one in daylight and get a better colour balance !!

[pinetar]

Originally Posted by lambroving

Gary,

A 4/4 is a 4-cylinder, 4-wheel (rather than three-wheeler) Morgan. A Plus 4 is a Morgan with a bit more... At various times, four-seaters have been built as both 4/4's and Plus 4's. Peter Morgan would never permit a Plus 8 four-seater after a lawsuit he settled here in the late 60's. Only this year can you obtain a four-seater 225 BHP 6-cylinder "Roadster". Some Plus 8 four-seaters were built in the past by specialist Morgan agents including some DHC's, but never by the Morgan Motor Co.

You can view the current range here. Morgan Motor Company Home Page

I stand corrected. The 4 seater that I recall was the plus 4 +. The 4/4 was a stripped down version, different engine then the triumph.

[johnkuo]

Love the color, composition and setting. Great shot.

[lambroving]

John,

Pleased you enjoyed and I agree the setting in the Cotswolds suits a 4/4. I make a point of staying at this same spot for a few days whenever I'm over because it always feels like a "home-away-from-home" as Andy indicated. The Leica Users Gallery :: Chipping Campden

Gary,

Right, there were a number of Plus 4 four-seaters sold by Fergus Motors in the U.S. in the 60's. However, a +4+ was a 60's car of a different sort which never sold well and probably saved the company by stirring sales of the standard cars, building the waiting list to ten years at one point. THIS is a +4+.

[harmsr]

William,

Looks like you had a good time on your trip. Congrats!

I love the color of that car in your second version.

Best,

Ray

[pinetar]

Originally Posted by lambroving

John,

Pleased you enjoyed and I agree the setting in the Cotswolds suits a 4/4. I make a point of staying at this same spot for a few days whenever I'm over because it always feels like a "home-away-from-home" as Andy indicated. The Leica Users Gallery :: Chipping Campden

Gary,

Right, there were a number of Plus 4 four-seaters sold by Fergus Motors in the U.S. in the 60's. However, a +4+ was a 60's car of a different sort which never sold well and probably saved the company by stirring sales of the standard cars, building the waiting list to ten years at one point. THIS is a +4+.

John
I forgot about that homely beast. Know one has come up with a pic of a 4 seater roadster, which i am calling the +4+ from the 60's.

My 61 drophead, purchased in 67 after my return from Nam.

[lambroving]

Ray,

Yep, pretty cute. Same color scheme as my Plus 8, more or less. Even Ron liked it. Before he saw this color in the flesh, he thought all Morgans had to be BRG! In case you missed it, he was with me for the week but is recovering in Cornwall with his girlfriend. Thought I'd better post a few snaps before he posts his REAL photographs and blows me out of the water!

[abrewer]

Lovely shot of a lovely car, William!

It's great to have you back! Hope you enjoyed your vacation!

This scene does look familiar...do I recall the blue Morgan from a year or two ago in the same location???

Your "Levels" adjustment works very well. A favorite tool of my own is the "Shadows/Highlights", but it can put a crazy over-saturated buzz on the image.

Welcome home!

Thanks.

Allan