Hull Bay - St. Thomas US VI

[pemayeux]

William - oddly enough I have had some shots taken with my 35/1.4 show the same vignetting. I'm still using PSE2 on my laptop. I thought about upgrading but I've got PSCS2 on my desktop and that is already more software than I care to exploit.

[stunsworth]

Paul, I've been wondering if it may be an exposure problem that the lab is compenating for that's producing some artifacts? 1/380th at f5.6 seems a long exposure for a scene taken near the middle of the day in the tropics - I would have expected something approaching f11 at that speed based on an ISO 160 film and the old sunny 16 rule. I wonder if the meter was fooled by the shaded tree area?

Without seeing the negs this is mere specuation of course.

[lambroving]

Originally Posted by pemayeux

William - oddly enough I have had some shots taken with my 35/1.4 show the same vignetting. I'm still using PSE2 on my laptop. I thought about upgrading but I've got PSCS2 on my desktop and that is already more software than I care to exploit.

Paul,

Thanks for confirming. Saving for web in PSE2 also darkens the web presentation from what I see in PS before saving and I've learned to make allowances for that effect. I'm with you on the software. For my uses, photography has everything to do with the prints or slides and very little to do with how things might appear on a monitor. I'm going blind looking at a monitor at work most of the day.

Dan and I tried to conduct an experiment today with the software and Sony Artisan in his lab/office but we ran out of time. Maybe later.

[Edward S. Isaacs]

And to think we're going to get a foot of snow tomorrow......

I've gotta get out of here....

Thanks William.

Ed.







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[lambroving]

Originally Posted by edisaacs

And to think we're going to get a foot of snow tomorrow......

I've gotta get out of here....

Thanks William.

Ed..

Ed,

A foot???!!! I thought it was 6" - 8". That will make Route 80 truly ugly and I have (or had) a full day tomorrow. Sure hope they got the forecast wrong.

Will be in Ojai, CA at the end of next week for an intensive product launch but will take the gear and hope to bore you with a few snaps if they give me any time to breathe. At least during the day it will be 70's F there and probably sunny in the high desert. Did I tell you how much I hate the desert?

[imported_peter_m]

Ed and William,

Looks like you are right in the middle of global warming <G>

It is supposed to snow here as well for the next day or two, back to winter for a few days.

Peter

[lambroving]

Originally Posted by imported_peter_m

Ed and William,

Looks like you are right in the middle of global warming <G>

It is supposed to snow here as well for the next day or two, back to winter for a few days.

Peter

Peter & Ed,


-6 C and 20 cm of snow and ice..., and it's still snowing. Dan did this minor correction on his workstation with full PS and Sony Artisan, and I resized and saved without "saving for web" as he does with his posts. We all have different software and monitors, but this looks a little sharper to me. How does it look to you. Dan says that on his Artisan, usually my posts look pretty decent "Same goes for Brent’s, Rob Stevens, Paul & Guy's." Compression doesn't help much of course.

[imported_peter_m]

William,

We are a bit more spring like, snowing at night and rain during the day. Wreckers working overtime right now.

Your images always look fine here, on this image there are differences between your original and the worked over one, The second one looks a bit brighter, shows a tad more detail, greens are not as saturated but the sand is a bit warmer. Maybe the ideal one would a combination of the two but both look good here.

Peter

[andybarton]

The second one is definitely an improvement over the first, both in terms of colour (although I have never been there, so am not qualified to comment on the colours specifically) but also in overall "crisp-ness".

[stunsworth]

The second one looks better IMHO, it has more 'ping' if you see what I mean. Plus it eliminates Elements 2 as being the source of the vignetting.

[lambroving]

Originally Posted by imported_peter_m

William,

We are a bit more spring like, snowing at night and rain during the day. Wreckers working overtime right now.

Your images always look fine here, on this image there are differences between your original and the worked over one, The second one looks a bit brighter, shows a tad more detail, greens are not as saturated but the sand is a bit warmer. Maybe the ideal one would a combination of the two but both look good here.

Peter

From memory, the colors are more accurate in my original. Dan mentioned that he adjusted curves slightly (which I don't have in PSE2) but nothing else. On mine, I did adjust the hue and saturation slightly. That appears to further accentuate the vignetting effect, at least with PSE2. I'll post another shot which Dan likes which exhibits no real vignetting, just as the Magens Bay shot did not. It never occured to me to remove the hood and UVa for this shot which I could have since I was in deep shade at that moment. I can live with this shot as it stands though.

To quote Dan, "I never check how color will look in a web browser – everyone’s monitors are different. Few people use calibration tools, and almost none of them have reference grade equipment – and it shows. Numerous posts on the Leica Forum are muddy, low contrast affairs – or they go too far in the other direction..."