Marine Band Painted

[carylwithay]

Taken with a Panasonic TZ3 using the in camera storage because i forgot to put film in the camera. The resolution was much lower but it made a good painting.
Caryl

[jmr]

Caryl,

I like the impressionistic effect - the colour, tones and composition are good, in my opinion.

[bradreiman]

im no fan of these paint programs personally. i feel like it ruins a picture or is an escape route for an already useless photograph and they all look the same. to each his/her own of course. what is the camera? it must have a little pana-leica lens I presume? oh well, thanks for sharing....B

[egibaud]

I never understood the point about painting a picture. For me it is just for people who would like to draw / paint and cannot do it (me for example) so they paint a picture making other think it was all painted and not picture based. If a picture is good, why paint it??? Why put sauce on a very good piece of meat?

[rob_x2004]

Brad I hope you used black and white film in your m8 for that south of bondi shot
Erics got some real wild tones happening in his skin stuff too.
I guess you are only allowed to modify things when you own an m8, because then it is art.

[bradreiman]

rob-don't be silly. Caryl also has an m8 so its not m8 snobbery I can assure you. I like alot of her work. I just don't like the "painted images" or "paintings", they are neither painted nor paintings actually. they are just run through a program and spit out. Now I do love actual paintings and I really love photographs-just not the marriage of the 2 through software. I think Caryl's photography stands up well without it and this is a forum so I told her. Simmer down....b

[carylwithay]

LOve the conversations here. Now to put the records straight. I do not just run my work through filters. Oh no. The programs I use have actual brushes and I use a stylus as if it is a brush. Each area is painted over with a brush but the brushes have different effects that real brushes do not.. When printed, they actually do look like paintings and you can see all the brush work. For the record, I have entered them in art competitions along with real paintings and won as art.
Caryl

[rob_x2004]

Yea I know. But it is just curious that people generally not you specifically Brad, are quite happy to use third party plug ins like noise ninja alien skin or sharpening programs because they cant do it themselves. Same thing, and aimed at presenting an image in a fashion one feels right to them at eh time. No crusade. Neither is merging the forms any more rediculous than ony other mixed media in art.

[rob_x2004]

Originally Posted by carylwithay

I have entered them in art competitions along with real paintings and won as art. l

That bit I would keep quiet about though. Happy to wear a protesters sandwich board against that Guess if you win as "art" it is fair enough. If you won as "painting" I would be challenging the judges questionable acumen.

ps I still think you need to do something about the black shadow line beneath the stage. Too strong and distracting.

[carylwithay]

Rob, you make an interesting point. I win as Art and not Painting BUT I also win with painted photos in Photography competitions. There certainly is a difference between painting and photography but the line between paintings and photography as art is much more gray. Art can be photographic but not all photographs are art.

We went to a juried Art show on Sunday. The juror was a curator of the Oakland Museum in California. More than half the pieces selected for the show and winning were photography based. That is most unusual. I know that museum likes photography because they own one of my film collaged and painted pieces but to choose so many was a surprise, a pleasant one for me.

The debate about what is art itself has gone on forever. Now this one will too. Art is in the eye of the beholder.
Caryl