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Old 02/24/07, 05:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone able to translate? I came across these doors in one of the older barrios of Bogota and liked teir texture, not to mention the Hebrew script...
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Old 02/24/07, 09:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jonathan,

Sorry I can't help with translation:-) What film are you shooting with? Are you sending the film out to a lab? I'm wondering about the quality of the processing. Your compositions are good but the images are extremely grainy (this one is better than the others you posted). Are you doing any post processing? Scanning prints or film? How do you meter the exposures? I'm probably asking to many questions.

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Jonathan,

Sorry I can't help with translation:-) What film are you shooting with? Are you sending the film out to a lab? I'm wondering about the quality of the processing. Your compositions are good but the images are extremely grainy (this one is better than the others you posted). Are you doing any post processing? Scanning prints or film? How do you meter the exposures? I'm probably asking to many questions.

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I shoot with whatever film I can get. These latest postings were shot with Fuji asa 100. I send the film to a local shop (which won't be getting any more of my business). I don't do any post porcessing. The "lab" is scanning the film (the scanned it backwards the other day). As far as metering, well...I'm wingin' it. I got a lot to learn about this aspect!
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Jonathan,

You might consider getting a hand held meter to get better exposures until you can really wing it without a meter. At least it would put you in the ball park. Getting a film scanner and learning to use the software tools in post processing will make a dramatic difference in the interpretation of your prints. I realize this means investing but really there is no way out of it (unless you have access through other means). Photography is a very expensive passion as you are probably beginning to experience, but I trust this will not discourage you, keep shooting and developing that eye! :-)

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You have an eye for photography. Here's an example of what you can achieve with the proper tools. Be patient, time will bring you what you need. Pa'lante hermano.

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Gracias gracias. Me gusta mucho la (suya) de B/N. What I really liked about the actual door was the green, but my shot lost a lot of its richness. I'll chalk that up to poor lab work and scanning! Your shot has a great texture to it. Thanks...As always, I welcome any and all (for the most part!) manipulations. Don't worry, I won't give up. I mean, if I'm taking the time and enormous effort to load a iiif, the least I can do is learn to use it well...
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Here's a color version. I'm usually partial to B&W but the green doors do make a statement.
You spotted these well. You have my admiration for taking on the task with a classic Leica.

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Hello again Wilfredo,
Nice! I gotta git me whatever yous using ta punch up them colors! This last one looks great. Thanks. As soon as I get a job and get my wife a gift with my first paycheck I'll be investing in a computer and some photo programs as well as a scanner...one day, one day.
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Hello Jonathan,

You do have a good eye for taking photographs and as I seen on a other thread you get the lab to scan, to edit the scans you won't need to invest a lot to start with a basic computer and a image editor will do the trick. You don't need Photoshop, Elements or PSP will be plenty to get you started and you can do a lot with those programs.

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Thanks Peter. I'll look into Elements and PSP.
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check out the Picasa2.0 from Google. It's free and very easy to use. Try it.
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I will and thank YOU Ed.
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Hello Jonathan,

There also is Irfan View IrfanView - Official Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide also free and has enough to get you started.

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Thanks again. We'll see if any of these three can help me along as I try to tame the photography beast. You'll see results within the week. (I hope).
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A nice capture, ably tweaked by Wilfredo.

Can't help with the Hebew, except the middle top. I think 7WD means Kosher and seem to remember that from a series of detective novels by Harry Kemelman, "Friday, the Rabbi slept late", "Saturday the Rabbi went hungry" etc. They were very good reading.
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Thanks Peter...I found the Hebrew really out of place. There are no synogogues anywhere near the doors. Across the street is a museum. There is an art museum down the street and a cathedral around the corner. I'm really interested to find out what it says...if your memory serves you, it mught just turn out to be a butcher!
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I'm intrigued. Perhaps you should hang around until somebody shows up to find out what goes on in there. It looks like there used to be a door knocker on the door, and there's a little silde that opens from the inside to s checkout whoever is outside. I'll try sending the picture to a Jewish Cantor who is a friend of mine and ask him to read the Hebrew :-) I'm sure there are people on this forum who read Hebrew.

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Wilfredo, I, too, am intrigued. I hung out in front of the place for a few minutes and even tried to peek through a crack...nothing. It'd be great if you could get a translation. Here's a close up I took of the little window. Thanks again.
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Here's what my friend was able to make out:

"Yes loosely translated it says...The house of development.

The door on the right says...The entrance to the hotel and the restaurant.

The door on the left says...For the apartments of the house only!!!.

Apparently it is both a private and public space, and they seem to want to be very clear which door leads where.

The opening line seems a bit more esoteric, and I’m not sure I got it exactly right."

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Jonathan,

Here's something else I got from an Israeli contact. The opening line reads:"Yiftach's House or The House of Yiftach." This international mystery is solved. Maybe at some point you will meet Yiftach:-)

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