dkCambridgeshire Posted November 10, 2014 Share #1 Posted November 10, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/303685-sony-a7-thread-merged-226.html … post No. 4514 dunk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xalo Posted November 11, 2014 Share #2 Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks! I guess we all have found our respective digital "R-solutions" by now, but it would be nice to actually use that recently invented revolutionary feature of the automatic aperture on the R-lenses. Whatever this may hint at, please let it have an optical finder... and as an aside, cost significantly less than a Dacia Logan. Alexander 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted November 27, 2014 Share #3 Posted November 27, 2014 I'd like to see a scaled down Leica S... But who knows? I guess we'll wait and see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou Posted November 28, 2014 Share #4 Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks! I guess we all have found our respective digital "R-solutions" by now, but it would be nice to actually use that recently invented revolutionary feature of the automatic aperture on the R-lenses.Whatever this may hint at, please let it have an optical finder... and as an aside, cost significantly less than a Dacia Logan. Alexander A good engineer could easily conceive an adaptor for, say, Leica and/or Sony wich would close the diaphragm only when pressing the shutter and let it open again for the next shot. Unfortunately the market is probably too small if only for R Leica lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted November 28, 2014 Share #5 Posted November 28, 2014 I'd like to see a scaled down Leica S... But who knows? I guess we'll wait and see. I would too, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it. My digital R solution is the only one that takes advantage of the lens' auto diaphragm feature and I'll continue using it as long as I can get the batteries rebuilt and it doesn't need any electronic repairs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted November 28, 2014 Share #6 Posted November 28, 2014 I do appreciate my R8/DMR... Great combo but the thought of a new dedicated body just fills me with joy. And not to mention the overnight price jump of the R lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted December 29, 2014 Share #7 Posted December 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hoping for some sort of a Leica R solution I bought the M240 to use with my R lenses, it's certainly not in the same class as a proper SLR but those of us who have an extensive collection of R lenses there isn't much choice out there, (not interested in the DMR) However I must admit, the M240 does a very good job with R lenses, wish the EVF was better though. Perhaps one day Leica might release an inbuilt EVF into it's future M model, as frankly I don't care to much about Rangefinding. As attaching my R lenses to other Cameras, I no longer bother using my R lenses with my Canon DSLR as now I have added a couple of Canon lenses on which I do like very much, just love the Canon AF and IS. Good Luck for those who are still hoping for a Leica R DSLR, personally just move on, there are better alternatives out there. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted December 30, 2014 Share #8 Posted December 30, 2014 Good Luck for those who are still hoping for a Leica R DSLR, personally just move on, there are better alternatives out there.Ken Agreed. While I would have loved a true "R10", I was happy with my M9 for RF lenses, so I passed on the new M. This year got an A7 body for all my old SLR lenses (I can't stand dSLRs), and am really satisfied with my R lenses on it. I find the EFV fine for focus with all the focus "aids" turned off. And as a bonus it works equally well all my other brands of SLR lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted December 30, 2014 Share #9 Posted December 30, 2014 Good Luck for those who are still hoping for a Leica R DSLR, personally just move on, there are better alternatives out there. I think the best R solution we can hope for is a smart adapter on a mirrorless camera. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
santila Posted December 30, 2014 Share #10 Posted December 30, 2014 Leica did let us down by not continue the development of the DMR. It was one of the best with its Kodak sensor. Even today there are no digaital camera that can come close in boque then this camera. I also did bite the bullet having R lenses that I can only use with films. Doug was the only one who made the right choice sticking out with the DMR. I am still debating to get a DMR but my Oly system come close to it. After all photography is just a hobby! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted December 30, 2014 Share #11 Posted December 30, 2014 I don't believe there are technical reasons why a full-frame, manual-focus R-mount body could not be made borrowing technology from the M and S systems. I wager the decision not to comes from the management department not the engineering department. There probably aren't enough die-hard R fans to make such a body sell profitably even if the price was higher than the S2, and even if there were, there's little incentive for Leica to make such a body given they wouldn't make money from lens sales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted December 30, 2014 Share #12 Posted December 30, 2014 If Leica ever made a proper R digital SLR camera I would get one immediately but that will never be the case. I would love to see Leica produce an M body with a high quality internal EVF, this in my belief could now be the best solution that we will ever get from Leica and I think it will be a run away seller as I have both M and R lenses, I for one will certainly buy one. I do like the size and weight of the M240, though perhaps Leica's engineers could adapt a proper hand grip to the M240 body for us R lens owners with the shutter release on the grip and replace the present shutter release on the body with a plus - minus compensation dail. However Leica should continue with the original range finder design for those that still like range finding. I can only hope. Ken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 30, 2014 Share #13 Posted December 30, 2014 I think the best R solution we can hope for is a smart adapter on a mirrorless camera. I agree. For taking pictures of birds in flight your DMR will probably be unmatched I suppose. R-lenses I only started acquiring long after the R cameras had been discontinued. So I knew what I was getting into. Besides an M9 (I used an NEX-5N for framing and focusing), mirrorless cameras of MFT, APS-C, and FF kind are the only ones that I ever used an R-lens on. Stationary subjects I can handle that way, either on a tripod for heavier lenses or preferentially on a camera with IBIS for lighter R-lenses up to 200 mm focal length. That makes the A7II very interesting. But I will wait for Sony's next moves. Until then my A7R, NEX-5N/7, and E-M5/1 will have to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted December 30, 2014 Share #14 Posted December 30, 2014 I've got the M240+EVF and also a Nex 6 and even my little Canon Rebel DSLR is a far more pleasurable experience using manual lenses (I have an olympus eyepiece magnifier on it, just happened to fit), let alone the 5D. EVF's just don't even come up to entry-level reflex viewing at this point. If someone did make an adapter that allowed auto diaphragm, or even had a stopdown button, it would be a major improvement in functionality. Such an adapter would not be possible for Canon EF though because there isn't enough thickness. The nicest lenses to use adapted are those like the m42 mounts (Pentax, Praktica etc) or Hassy V-series, as those lenses have stopdown buttons on them. So they function like pre-set aperture lenses (anyone old enough to remember those?). Easy to toggle back and forth between wide open and shooting aperture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 30, 2014 Share #15 Posted December 30, 2014 For those focal length that rangefinder focusing applies to I get best and fairly quick manual focusing with the rangefinder of my M9. For longer focal length I actually prefer even the current generation of EVFs over an OVF, say that of the D800E. With the D800E and similar cameras I have to rely on the green dot to tell me whether a lens is manually focused or not. That's not always accurate enough. With an EVF I ignore pretty much focus peaking and rely on maximum magnification. When focused that way and there is enough micro-contrast in the image focus peaking typically will confirm the manual focus though. Speaking only for myself, of course. I don't think one should generalize ones own preferences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted December 31, 2014 Share #16 Posted December 31, 2014 The stated reason is a whole new line of lenses with AUTO FOCUS would be required for the R10 to compete with Canon/Nikon. 240 seems to be a reasonable compromise. I gave up waiting and put Nikon mounts on the R lenses I wished to retain, 21, 28&35 PC, 60, 100 APO. The D800 viewfinder levels for both horizontal and tilt can be made available at the same time thus allowing handheld use with the PC lenses. A tripod is best, but this is second and no levels is close to impossible. The 100 is fantastic, perhaps better than on film. 36 MP does beat film for sure. The 21 is a bit weak in the corners as are most wides made for film. The 20, 18, and 24 Nikons made for film are even worse. Those lucky enough to have the APO telyts can use them on Nikon with great success. Focus can be a bit difficult without a proper focus screen . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W124 Posted December 31, 2014 Share #17 Posted December 31, 2014 T I found my R-solution in a modified Sony SLT-A99 body. For me it has a better handling than the Sony A7/r/s, especially with large and heavy tele lenses. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2841704-post51.html Happy new year Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 2, 2015 Share #18 Posted January 2, 2015 T I found my R-solution in a modified Sony SLT-A99 body. For me it has a better handling than the Sony A7/r/s, especially with large and heavy tele lenses. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2841704-post51.html Happy new year Did you do it yourself or is there someone who can do the mount replacement? I recall several year ago someone doing this sort of R mount modification on Sigma DSLR's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
W124 Posted January 2, 2015 Share #19 Posted January 2, 2015 Did you do it yourself or is there someone who can do the mount replacement? I recall several year ago someone doing this sort of R mount modification on Sigma DSLR's. I did it myself. I asked a few companies to produce an adapter, but at the end..., I'm a watchmaker so I have the possibility to do it after work at home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted January 2, 2015 I did it myself. I asked a few companies to produce an adapter, but at the end..., I'm a watchmaker so I have the possibility to do it after work at home. Don't be surprised if you are inundated with offers / requests dunk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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