pgk Posted June 22, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looking at the wiki here I see no links to threads about the R6. The R6.2 seems to be acknowledged as the better camera when searching the web, but is there anything wrong with the original R6? As the first mechanical R camera I'm surprised that it does not get more attention. Any R6 owners out there prepared to comment on the camera? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Hi pgk, Take a look here Why so little about the R6?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gvaliquette Posted June 22, 2014 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2014 Short answer: 1/2000 sec. That is the only difference between the R6.2 and the R6. The R6 was introduced before the R6.2. Years ago, when it became time to buy a second R body to backup my R9, I went for an R6.x, since they are entirely mechanical. Then I started looking for a mint R6.2. Why? 1) I could afford it. 2) Why not! I am not claiming that this is entirely rational! Guy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berth Posted June 22, 2014 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2014 In 1991 I reengaged with photography after abandoning it for 20 years, I purchased a R6. Wonderful camera for much of the time I used it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted June 22, 2014 Share #4 Posted June 22, 2014 I used a Leicaflex SL as a compnion to my M4 for many years after buying them in1968. After getting an M6 in the 1980s I eventually found the R6 an ideal companion to it due to the similar action of the meter readout. It makes switching between them painless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted June 23, 2014 Share #5 Posted June 23, 2014 Pasted from the Leica FAQ site: The obvious one is that the R6.2 has had its max shutter speed increased to 1/2000th - a stop faster than the R6's 1/1000th. There are a few other subtle differences as well. According to Bill Larsen: … The exposure counter was relocated so it is adjacent to the metering selector switch and is magnified. The shutter blade mechanism was changed is lighter in weight and supposedly has better accuracy. They both have TTL using the same Metz adapter. Both are basically mechanical cameras and will function without a battery. For flash use, both have a electronic shutter release that is activated when the shutter speed is set on "x". Both require a circular polarizer since metering is through the mirror. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted June 23, 2014 Share #6 Posted June 23, 2014 I still have my R6 although it's a museum piece now. I love that camera. Pinnacle of the R line. Salgado used it a lot including his photos of the Gulf war and aftermath. The R6.2 was a little tacky in that they cut out the R6 engraving on the front of the camera and welded in a patch with R6.2 engraved. They must have had a lot of unsold R6 camera shells laying around. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted June 23, 2014 Share #7 Posted June 23, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) In fact, I used the R6 to take the photo of the brown bear I use as my avatar. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted June 23, 2014 Share #8 Posted June 23, 2014 I love mine and I'll never part with it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/229305-why-so-little-about-the-r6/?do=findComment&comment=2616275'>More sharing options...
steveclem Posted June 23, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 23, 2014 Because it wasn't made in Germany and was based on a Japanese camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted June 23, 2014 Share #10 Posted June 23, 2014 from The R series cameras the only made in Germany are the R8/9 right? Or am I wrong? Also my R8 is from Portugal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted June 23, 2014 Because it wasn't made in Germany and was based on a Japanese camera. A web search suggests the R6 to be German designed and built with Portuguese sub assemblies, but then the web can be wrong;). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted June 23, 2014 Share #12 Posted June 23, 2014 I had both (6 and 6.2). As a decades-long M shooter, the 1/1000 top speed wasn't something I really bumped into all that often. As it tends to be with most things Leica, whatever feature the successor model happened to have that the predecessor didn't, was quickly touted as indispensible and thus relegated the previous model to the owner's Hall of Shame That said, one glitch that I recall reading the R6 sometimes had was that the shutter brake was some rubbery substance that some of them over time became sticky and caused the shutter to hang. Never happened to mine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc_rufctr Posted June 24, 2014 Share #13 Posted June 24, 2014 from The R series cameras the only made in Germany are the R8/9 right? Or am I wrong? Also my R8 is from Portugal. All of the R series were Made in Germany at some level but it's well known that the R3 was based on a Minolta design. The early SLs were 100% German. R4 to R7... Mostly German and Portuguese. (and a further development of the original R3 design) R8/R9 100% German design but you're right some mid production R8s were Portuguese and as it turns out "some say" these are the most reliable R8s made. With regards to manufacturing in general. Even if something is actually Made in Germany often the workers in that factory are immigrants to Germany. So does really it matter? To me it doesn't...... It's the people, company philosophy and culture behind the design that's important. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernando_b Posted June 24, 2014 Share #14 Posted June 24, 2014 "It's the people, company philosophy and culture behind the design that's important." I agree with you! Fernando. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted June 24, 2014 Share #15 Posted June 24, 2014 If I recall correctly, Leica discontinued the R6 series when Seiko stopped making the shutter mechanisms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luskentyre Posted June 25, 2014 Share #16 Posted June 25, 2014 Before I bought my well used R6 I read comments about the degree of shutter lag there was with the camera and how surprising it was that Salgado would use such a flawed camera. I've been looking for this post today to try to get more detail but I can't find it. With my R6 there is a very noticeable delay between pressing the shutter release and the shutter tripping. It's almost like a two stage action - firstly the lens stops down to the required aperture then there is a delay before the shutter trips. Now this might be some sort of flaw with my particular camera but it is noticeable and unlike any other camera I've used (and I've used a few!). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted June 25, 2014 Share #17 Posted June 25, 2014 Its what I disliked most about my R4 too, nothing like the eager immediacy of the Ms Gerry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted June 25, 2014 Share #18 Posted June 25, 2014 I've had 2 well used R6s, and the first had much more of a pause on shutter action than the second one. So I assume this is a matter of proper setup or maintenance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted June 25, 2014 Share #19 Posted June 25, 2014 The shutter delay comes mainly from the mirror damper. The oil in there get's sticky. After 25 years of usage, it might be time for a little service. The time delay of a good R is very little. Torsten 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted June 25, 2014 Share #20 Posted June 25, 2014 Maybe it´s from some interest: Just checked in an Photo Revue Test Magzine from 1985 some shutter delay times on a few cameras: Canon AL 1: 80ms Canon T 50: 70ms Contax 137MA: 110ms Leica R4 S: 150ms Minolta X 500 100ms Nikon FE2: 60ms Nikon FA: 215ms Olympus OM 4 60ms Pentax Super A: 150ms Ricoh XR P: 370ms Yashica FX 70: 70ms (checkpoint was mid of frame) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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