New Firmware 1.176

***pico*** · 06/12/11, 18:12

Available now.

The most encouraging quote "All cards available from SanDisk have been compatibility-tested and the firmware version 1.1.76 ensures their proper function."

wda · 06/12/11, 18:33

Just installed my upgrade. Testing later.

brill64 · 06/12/11, 18:44

updated successfully..

thank you leica

M. Valdemar · 06/12/11, 19:15

Unscientific testing of a few of my SD cards such as Transcend Class 4 32gb and new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra 16gb, as well as some Class 10 cards give me the impression that saving files to cards is noticeably slower with 1.176 firmware.

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k-hawinkler · 06/12/11, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Valdemar

Unscientific testing of a few of my SD cards such as Transcend Class 4 32gb and new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra 16gb, as well as some Class 10 cards give me the impression that saving files is cards is noticeably slower with 1.176 firmware.

Compared to???

M. Valdemar · 06/12/11, 19:18

Compared to 1.162 and 1.174

(M9 buffers and saves files slower. Red light blinks longer)

k-hawinkler · 06/12/11, 19:20

bocaburger · 06/12/11, 19:41

Not having any problems with my spate of 2GB cards, so think I'll hang onto 1.162 until Leica fixes the write speed issue. It's slow enough as it is. I dunno, but my 5D takes any and every card I've thrown into it without a hiccup. I don't understand the reason for Leica's problems with card compatibility, which was present with the M8 also, and why the "fix" seems to require choking down the write-speed.

Printmaker · 06/12/11, 19:42

Having failed to install the last update (what was it two weeks ago?) do I now need to install both updates or just this one?

TIA

Tom

k-hawinkler · 06/12/11, 19:45

Just the latest.

K-H.

Printmaker · 06/12/11, 19:47

Thanks!

Land of Enchantment... Santa Fe? My old stomping ground.

k-hawinkler · 06/12/11, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Printmaker

Thanks!

Land of Enchantment... Santa Fe? My old stomping ground.

You are welcome. It's enchanted right now, alright, with snow on the ground.
Hawaii ain't bad either.

Cheers, K-H.

mumu · 06/12/11, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Printmaker

Having failed to install the last update (what was it two weeks ago?) do I now need to install both updates or just this one?

TIA

Tom

you can direct update to the last Firmware.

David Craig · 06/12/11, 20:06

So should one re-format old cards with this release?

sblitz · 06/12/11, 20:26

i think i am going to skip the whole exercise ... the one that fixed the corners for wide angles was great for me, this one just doesn't matter and slowing the camera down doesn't make much sense.

@bumac · 06/12/11, 20:47

Great update. 12800 Asa fine. Autofocus perfect. Hyprid-Viewfinder brighter than before. New HD-video is a wonderfull feature. Thanx Leica.

01af · 06/12/11, 20:55

The new firmware v1.176 ist better than v1.174—vastly better actually (faster) with my SanDisk SDHC Extreme 32 GB card—but still slightly slower than v1.162. So thank you, Leica, but no thanks. For the time being I shall stay with v1.162.

My results for the SD card mentioned above for seven frames in DNG+JPEG basic uncompressed format, C mode, shutter speed 1/500 s, lens recognition = automatic, body cap mounted instead of a lens, metered from the start of the first exposure until the red light stops blinking:

Firmware v1.162:

ISO 160/23°: 40 s
ISO 320/26°: 41 s
ISO 640/29°: 43 s
ISO 1250/32°: 45 s
ISO 2500/35°: 63 s

Firmware v1.176:

ISO 160/23°: 48 s
ISO 320/26°: 49 s
ISO 640/29°: 52 s
ISO 1250/32°: 54 s
ISO 2500/35°: 69 s

With firmware v1.174, the same test at ISO 160/23° took 100 s (rather than 40 or 48 s); I did not try the higher ISO values.

Please note that with other cards (or possibly even with the same card but from another batch of manufacture), the timings may be significantly different ... better or worse. So your mileage may vary.

Jamie Roberts · 06/12/11, 21:00

FYI, I just compared my recent SD HC M9 write times with Panasonic gold cards linked here:

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ml#post1906022

With 1.176 there is no measurable difference in speed with those cards (which is fine with me): after 7 DNG uncompressed +JPEG FINE shots the buffer clears totally in a little over 50s with a 16GB class 10 UHS card. The same card clears the buffer entirely in just about 20s with DNG compressed.

***pico*** · 06/12/11, 21:00

Firmware 1.176

Sandisk Extreme HD Video 20MB/s 16GB
50mm F0/.95

7 shots in C mode
Uncompressed DNG

160 ISO - 26 seconds
2500 ISO - 26 seconds
15 seconds for compressed
65 seconds if including fine JPEG - so don't do that! Why do you need JPEG anyway?

About the same as earlier release. I'm happy with new confidence using Sandisk cards.

k-hawinkler · 06/12/11, 21:04

Save uncompressed DNG + JPG Fine.
That will slow you down.

K-H.

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06/12/11, 19:18	#6 (permalink)
M. Valdemar Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 23/07/08 Posts: 426	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Compared to 1.162 and 1.174 (M9 buffers and saves files slower. Red light blinks longer)

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k-hawinkler Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 12/09/09 Location: The "Land of Enchantment" Posts: 4,013	Re: New Firmware 1.176

06/12/11, 19:41	#8 (permalink)
bocaburger Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 06/04/08 Posts: 784	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Not having any problems with my spate of 2GB cards, so think I'll hang onto 1.162 until Leica fixes the write speed issue. It's slow enough as it is. I dunno, but my 5D takes any and every card I've thrown into it without a hiccup. I don't understand the reason for Leica's problems with card compatibility, which was present with the M8 also, and why the "fix" seems to require choking down the write-speed.

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Printmaker Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 14/06/07 Posts: 552	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Having failed to install the last update (what was it two weeks ago?) do I now need to install both updates or just this one? TIA Tom

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k-hawinkler Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 12/09/09 Location: The "Land of Enchantment" Posts: 4,013	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Just the latest. K-H.

06/12/11, 19:47	#11 (permalink)
Printmaker Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 14/06/07 Posts: 552	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Thanks! Land of Enchantment... Santa Fe? My old stomping ground.

06/12/11, 20:06	#14 (permalink)
David Craig Neuer Benutzer Join Date: 05/08/11 Location: UK Posts: 7	Re: New Firmware 1.176 So should one re-format old cards with this release?

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sblitz Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 29/01/10 Location: new york Posts: 1,146	Re: New Firmware 1.176 i think i am going to skip the whole exercise ... the one that fixed the corners for wide angles was great for me, this one just doesn't matter and slowing the camera down doesn't make much sense.

06/12/11, 20:47	#16 (permalink)
@bumac Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 24/06/06 Location: Madrid Posts: 4,508	AW: New Firmware 1.176 Great update. 12800 Asa fine. Autofocus perfect. Hyprid-Viewfinder brighter than before. New HD-video is a wonderfull feature. Thanx Leica. __________________ rw www.reiner-wandler.de M-impresion C'est kif-kif!

06/12/11, 20:55	#17 (permalink)
01af Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 23/01/10 Posts: 2,872	Re: New Firmware 1.176 The new firmware v1.176 ist better than v1.174—vastly better actually (faster) with my SanDisk SDHC Extreme 32 GB card—but still slightly slower than v1.162. So thank you, Leica, but no thanks. For the time being I shall stay with v1.162. My results for the SD card mentioned above for seven frames in DNG+JPEG basic uncompressed format, C mode, shutter speed 1/500 s, lens recognition = automatic, body cap mounted instead of a lens, metered from the start of the first exposure until the red light stops blinking: Firmware v1.162: ISO 160/23°: 40 s ISO 320/26°: 41 s ISO 640/29°: 43 s ISO 1250/32°: 45 s ISO 2500/35°: 63 s Firmware v1.176: ISO 160/23°: 48 s ISO 320/26°: 49 s ISO 640/29°: 52 s ISO 1250/32°: 54 s ISO 2500/35°: 69 s With firmware v1.174, the same test at ISO 160/23° took 100 s (rather than 40 or 48 s); I did not try the higher ISO values. Please note that with other cards (or possibly even with the same card but from another batch of manufacture), the timings may be significantly different ... better or worse. So your mileage may vary.

06/12/11, 21:00	#18 (permalink)
Jamie Roberts Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 09/07/06 Location: Cambridge Posts: 4,911	Re: New Firmware 1.176 FYI, I just compared my recent SD HC M9 write times with Panasonic gold cards linked here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ml#post1906022 With 1.176 there is no measurable difference in speed with those cards (which is fine with me): after 7 DNG uncompressed +JPEG FINE shots the buffer clears totally in a little over 50s with a 16GB class 10 UHS card. The same card clears the buffer entirely in just about 20s with DNG compressed. __________________ James H (Jamie) Roberts Site: James Roberts photography Blog: James Roberts wedding photography blog

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*pico* Sponsoring Member Join Date: 16/10/06 Location: Driftless Zone Minnesota USA Posts: 4,368	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Firmware 1.176 Sandisk Extreme HD Video 20MB/s 16GB 50mm F0/.95 7 shots in C mode Uncompressed DNG 160 ISO - 26 seconds 2500 ISO - 26 seconds 15 seconds for compressed 65 seconds if including fine JPEG - so don't do that! Why do you need JPEG anyway? About the same as earlier release. I'm happy with new confidence using Sandisk cards. Last edited by pico; 06/12/11 at 21:11.

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k-hawinkler Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 12/09/09 Location: The "Land of Enchantment" Posts: 4,013	Re: New Firmware 1.176 Save uncompressed DNG + JPG Fine. That will slow you down. K-H.

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