Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real?

leica007 · 02/09/09, 13:22

Someone uploaded photos of the purported Leica X1 [a new beast] and Leica M9.

at least a good PS job - M9 matches what we saw on the 54-58sec video segment.

Leica X1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Specs suggested/claimed to be:

Leica M9
Full frame CCD 24x36mm (LEICA M8 18x27mm),
18,2 Megapixels (M8=10,3).
Improved Image Noise Performance at high ISO settings
Improved operation reactivity
Wake-up time, storage on SD card, zooming, etc.)
Bundled with Adobe Lightroom
[zooming sounds a bit odd]

Leica X1
LeicaElmarit24mm F2.8 ASPH. lens -Equiv. 35mm
12 Megapixels APSC CEMOS sensor
Made in Germany
Traditional Manual exposure operation (Shutter dial / Aperture dial)
Autofocus, Built-in flash
Bundled with Adobe Lightroom
CEMOS sensor? yeah?

leica007 · 02/09/09, 13:25

Okay, uploaded the photos right here - before they are gone.

Given that these are now all over the net....

sdai · 02/09/09, 13:26

How can this be photoshop? the X1 name sucks though, Leica's worst/best kept secret.

haustier · 02/09/09, 13:27

No chance as for made in Germany.

adli · 02/09/09, 13:28

You can easily see that the "M9" label is faked in some photo editing software

stunsworth · 02/09/09, 13:30

Do we really need two threads on this?

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ion-m9-x1.html

leica007 · 02/09/09, 13:31

Yes, could be , but the right hand corner looks interesting - doesn't it match the youtube video ?

leica007 · 02/09/09, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunsworth

Do we really need two threads on this?

calm down, dear friend

it doesn't cost money. retain focus on sub-issues, rather than getting submerged in the other thread.

veraikon · 02/09/09, 13:38

The X 1 seems to be "real"
see http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ste-micro.html
post 5+6
I trust Holger !

frankbernhard · 02/09/09, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by leica007

Okay, uploaded the photos right here - before they are gone.

well done, they're gone …

leica007 · 02/09/09, 13:46

Wow! that was a quick reaction from Leica/Flickr/ the uploader.
donno whether it's a gimmick or Leica marketing team/ flickr pouncing on these photos.

smells fishy, yet good. let's hope that we are seeing the real thing here.
a nice way to build up the excitement, huh?

veraikon · 02/09/09, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leica007

Okay, uploaded the photos right here - before they are gone.

merci and well done

Quote:

smells fishy, yet good. let's hope that we are seeing the real thing here.

as I told I trust Holger.

***bill*** · 02/09/09, 13:57

Anyone remember this:

http://www.exakta.net/imag/Samsungrolleiw.jpg

...?

Note the inset dials. I had one for a short while - superb handling, and great results. The dials popped up if you pressed down on them. You could then turn them and press them down to lock in a setting. One was aperture, the other shutterspeed.

I can see resemblances...

Regards,

Bill

aesop · 02/09/09, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by leica007

Okay, uploaded the photos right here - before they are gone.

Sorry folks: Need to check the Copyright status / NDA etc before these images can be un-moderated.

...hmmm, smells like legal fish, if you ask me.

sdai · 02/09/09, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by aesop

...hmmm, smells like legal fish, if you ask me.

On technical grounds, once one person broke the NDA, it doesn't bind the rest anymore because then what was revealed becomes second hand.

BigSplash · 02/09/09, 14:56

I note that Leica seem to be making a 45mm lens for a 4/3 camera (see above link) I also believe that the 4/3 Panasonic camera has adapters to accept M lenses and perhaps R lenses.

Question1 does a 50 mm lens on a 4/3 camera become heavily cropped by 1.33 factor or did I read 2x factor somewhere?

Question 2 is it a requirement that for liveview it is necessary to use a CMOS sensor ?

Thanks

jaapv · 02/09/09, 15:21

yes, for liveview CCD has thermal problems

rosuna · 02/09/09, 15:23

The X1 (or something like that) seems more probable to me than the M9...

Sherwood Nash · 02/09/09, 15:25

'George', you are a nice man!

"The colleagues of the English forum were so smarter and the pictures into the forum loaded:"

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ste-micro.html

Sherwood

leica007 · 02/09/09, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by leica007

Sorry folks: Need to check the Copyright status / NDA etc before these images can be un-moderated.

Guys, it's not me.

I don't know who is moderating this thread and has put this 'blue line'.
Who the hell are you? why don't you reveal your identity?

the more you censor, the more you confirm that the photos are of the real thing.

those who want to see the 'leaked' photos - check here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...29#post1129129

and can someone tell the guy who runs Leica Rumor not to lift photos from elsewhere, without acknowledging [we acknowledged our source], and put his/her website name all over the photos.

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02/09/09, 13:22	#1 (permalink)
leica007 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 22/11/07 Posts: 345	Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real? Someone uploaded photos of the purported Leica X1 [a new beast] and Leica M9. at least a good PS job - M9 matches what we saw on the 54-58sec video segment. Leica X1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! *Specs suggested/claimed to be:* Leica M9 Full frame CCD 24x36mm (LEICA M8 18x27mm), 18,2 Megapixels (M8=10,3). Improved Image Noise Performance at high ISO settings Improved operation reactivity Wake-up time, storage on SD card, zooming, etc.) Bundled with Adobe Lightroom [zooming* sounds a bit odd]* Leica X1 LeicaElmarit24mm F2.8 ASPH. lens -Equiv. 35mm 12 Megapixels APSC CEMOS sensor Made in Germany Traditional Manual exposure operation (Shutter dial / Aperture dial) Autofocus, Built-in flash Bundled with Adobe Lightroom *CEMOS sensor? yeah?* Last edited by leica007; 02/09/09 at 13:38.

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leica007 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 22/11/07 Posts: 345	Re: Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real? Yes, could be , but the right hand corner looks interesting - doesn't it match the youtube video ?

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veraikon Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 19/02/08 Location: In the centre of the blue banana, und ausserhalb der Zielgruppe Posts: 2,561	AW: Re: Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real? The X 1 seems to be "real" see http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ste-micro.html post 5+6 I trust Holger !

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leica007 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 22/11/07 Posts: 345	Re: Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real? Wow! that was a quick reaction from Leica/Flickr/ the uploader. donno whether it's a gimmick or Leica marketing team/ flickr pouncing on these photos. smells fishy, yet good. let's hope that we are seeing the real thing here. a nice way to build up the excitement, huh?

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BigSplash Gesperrt Join Date: 24/06/08 Location: South of France Posts: 1,317	Re: Leica M9 + X1: Fake or real? I note that Leica seem to be making a 45mm lens for a 4/3 camera (see above link) I also believe that the 4/3 Panasonic camera has adapters to accept M lenses and perhaps R lenses. Question1 does a 50 mm lens on a 4/3 camera become heavily cropped by 1.33 factor or did I read 2x factor somewhere? Question 2 is it a requirement that for liveview it is necessary to use a CMOS sensor ? Thanks

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