M8 and Noctilux As Seen In LFI

[mboerma]

Originally Posted by ammitsboel

Hmm... this is f****** great!
Is it film?

No it is an M8

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by mboerma

No it is an M8

I guess there is hope then.
I'm a great admirer of his texture and quality of the photos, for me it looks very delicately and emotional... maybe the late Dali would have just the right word for this?

Regards
Henrik

[NB23]

The Noctilux is a much misunderstood lens. And it's about all BUT silly boke. Boke and Noctilux shouldn't be in the same sentence. It's about capturing moments otherwise impossible or it's about its unique signature. But it is not about Boke alone. For that, there is the 90mm f2.

Funny thing is, you know the connaisseurs by who owns the lens. It's people that don't own it that usually talk bad about it. I can smell the non-owners by their first sentence in a post.

The Noctilux is a jewel and a true image maker like no other.

[fastdap@mac.com]

I guess I have been lucky? Focus of my Noctilux on my M8 has been spot on, never been 6-bit'd or to Solms. I often shoot at minimum focusing distance (rock back and forth) and no problems. Of course, the full effect and magic of the lens is what happens outside of the crop-sensor of the M8, so I actually prefer the look on film.
Mark

[Eoin]

Originally Posted by NB23

...Funny thing is, you know the connaisseurs by who owns the lens. It's people that don't own it that usually talk bad about it. I can smell the non-owners by their first sentence in a post. ...

Is that so , as one who owned a new Noctilux, I found life was not all about f:/1.0, from f:/2.0 to f:/5.6 the focus shift was such that it was unreliable for use. I already had a Summicron and from about f:/2.8 the summicron and Nocti were quite similar and I didn't want to have to keep both lenses. So I sold both and replaced them with the 50 Summilux Asph. A much more usable lens either wide open or stopped down IMO.
For the dreamy nocti look I now use the 85 Summarex or 90 summicron which IMO works quite well but will never be f:/1.0.

[NB23]

Originally Posted by Eoin

Is that so , as one who owned a new Noctilux, I found life was not all about f:/1.0, from f:/2.0 to f:/5.6 the focus shift was such that it was unreliable for use. I already had a Summicron and from about f:/2.8 the summicron and Nocti were quite similar and I didn't want to have to keep both lenses. So I sold both and replaced them with the 50 Summilux Asph. A much more usable lens either wide open or stopped down IMO.
For the dreamy nocti look I now use the 85 Summarex or 90 summicron which IMO works quite well but will never be f:/1.0.

It sounds like a miscalibrated camera or lens. There is no "dreamy Nocti look". a "dreamy look" you will get from a miscalibrated noctilux or from a 5cm summarit. Not from a Noctilux.

Here is a snap with the Noctilux. A regular snap such as I would with a P&S. In this instance: Focus, snap, done. No crop, no PP.

What you see here is a Noctilux image with perfect focus, excellent contrast wide open, no dreamy look (I wish this wrong term would stop to accompany the Noctilux), minimum focusing distance. A good sample, on a well calibrated camera will never be criticized. The critics come from bad samples or from peole with bad shots.



Again, I don't care who likes and who dislikes the lens. But a good Noctilux is something Spectacular.

[stunsworth]

Originally Posted by NB23

It sounds like a miscalibrated camera or lens

The Noctilux is noted for it's focus shift when you stop down. After f4 or so depth of field compensates, before that it's a known issue. Not so obvious on film Ms though.

I had a chance to use an ASPH 50mm Summilux today. My _personal_ opinion is that wide open it wipes the floor with the Noctilux. Other's opinions may as they say vary.

[SJP]

Boke and Noctilux shouldn't be in the same sentence.

Hmmmmmm.......





BTW is is boke or bokeh? Google hit rate says 'bokeh' but that is not quite in the same league as Wikipedia or the Encylopedia Britannica.

[Basal Skull]

Originally Posted by SJP

Hmmmmmm.......





BTW is is boke or bokeh? Google hit rate says 'bokeh' but that is not quite in the same league as Wikipedia or the Encylopedia Britannica.

My Japanese back ground says it should be 'bokeh' - blurred/cloudy etc.

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by stunsworth

I had a chance to use an ASPH 50mm Summilux today. My _personal_ opinion is that wide open it wipes the floor with the Noctilux. Other's opinions may as they say vary.

That's very interesting, how does it look?

[sthan]

You'll also find the whole series in LFI Gallery.
I've noticed them there since quite a while.
I agree with what has been said about post-proc,
high-pass and so on to obtain such a resolution
and crispness.

https://www.lfi-online.de/gallery/di...ch&cat=0&pos=9

[sthan]

Originally Posted by NB23

The Noctilux is a much misunderstood lens. And it's about all BUT silly boke. Boke and Noctilux shouldn't be in the same sentence. It's about capturing moments otherwise impossible or it's about its unique signature. But it is not about Boke alone. For that, there is the 90mm f2.

Funny thing is, you know the connaisseurs by who owns the lens. It's people that don't own it that usually talk bad about it. I can smell the non-owners by their first sentence in a post.

The Noctilux is a jewel and a true image maker like no other.

I totally agree and chased one for almost two years, before finding mine at a very affordable price…
I would never part from it.
But it's a lens that deserves and reclaims some work.

[stunsworth]

Originally Posted by ammitsboel

That's very interesting, how does it look?

Full frame at f1.4, no sharpening...

L1014785-ASPH.jpg

[SJP]

That's very interesting, how does it look?

How about looking here ??

[gfspencer]

Originally Posted by Tina Manley

Thanks, Dubois. I don't have many M8/Noctilux photos posted because most of mine miss the focus Here's one, though:

Belly Dancer, II photo - Tina Manley photos at pbase.com

Converted to B&W.

Tina
Tina Manley- powered by SmugMug

Some great photos, Tina!

[Eoin]

Originally Posted by NB23

It sounds like a miscalibrated camera or lens. There is no "dreamy Nocti look". a "dreamy look" you will get from a miscalibrated noctilux or from a 5cm summarit. Not from a Noctilux.

Here is a snap with the Noctilux. A regular snap such as I would with a P&S. In this instance: Focus, snap, done. No crop, no PP.

What you see here is a Noctilux image with perfect focus, excellent contrast wide open, no dreamy look (I wish this wrong term would stop to accompany the Noctilux), minimum focusing distance. A good sample, on a well calibrated camera will never be criticized. The critics come from bad samples or from peole with bad shots.



Again, I don't care who likes and who dislikes the lens. But a good Noctilux is something Spectacular.

Nothing wrong with the calibration, after all it was calibrated to my body twice by Leica who maintain it was working within spec . With regard to the dreamy look, what I refer to not the point of focus but the out of focus. I call it dreamy sorry for using the wrong term, what would you call it?.

I have no problem with the look, again I state I sold it because between 2.8 and 5.6 there was focus shift, I didn't buy the lens to only use it at f:/1.0, I bought it to use at all apertures which I couldn't. Happy you have one that works.

[NB23]

Originally Posted by SJP

Hmmmmmm.......





BTW is is boke or bokeh? Google hit rate says 'bokeh' but that is not quite in the same league as Wikipedia or the Encylopedia Britannica.

I think it's a silly word and I try to avoid as much as possible to write it bokeH. I prefer bokHe, to be honest. Or even Boke. From now on, I'll call it Blurreh. There!

[Eoin]

50 Summilux Asph and the new arrival !. No post just re-size for web