Have a look

[ammitsboel]

Here are two utterly boring shots showing some colors.
What image do you think has the best colors?
I will let you know what the difference is between them later in the post.
Thanks for looking.

[cbretteville]

The weave is most likely not pinkish in colour....

Second one I'd say is the more accurate.

- Carl

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by cbretteville

The weave is most likely not pinkish in colour....

It's my new style, I call it punk colors.

[stunsworth]

The bottom one is a little lighter, and there's a bit more shadow detail - look at the pincers on the pliers, but I wouldn't say one is 'better' than the other, just very slightly different interpretations of the original.

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by stunsworth

The bottom one is a little lighter, and there's a bit more shadow detail - look at the pincers on the pliers, but I wouldn't say one is 'better' than the other, just very slightly different interpretations of the original.

It's difficult because the scene is so boring.
I see the "lighter" colors in number two, but I also notice a different kind of sharpness in number one. I also detect some kind of "noise" in number two which makes number one look a bit clearer, but I don't know if others agree.

[bill]

I fell asleep playing "spot the difference" When I woke up I realised a basic and simple truth.

I simply don't care.

Regards.

Bill

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by bill

I fell asleep playing "spot the difference" When I woke up I realised a basic and simple truth.

I simply don't care.

How insightful.
I appreciate your comment.

[bill]

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

[luigi bertolotti]

I'd say the bottom one is better balanced... but it's all the fabric base... is it WHITE in reality ? Anyway... I can't trust so much my uncalibrated monitor....
Tell us the truth ... UVIR & not ?

[ammitsboel]

The difference is firmware, one of them is 1.201 another is 1.102

[luigi bertolotti]

Originally Posted by ammitsboel

The difference is firmware, one of them is 1.201 another is 1.102

bottom 1.201 I suppose... and... lens & filter ?

[Essemmlee]

Jeez, Bill got this one right.

Night all.

[ammitsboel]

Summilux 35mm asph with IR
Here are two with a cooler balance, the pink thing is a reflection from a red bag.

[luigi bertolotti]

Problem is... how was the scene lightened ? Only sunlight from right, rather angled (about 45°, looking at shadows...) ? Apart the color, there is clearly a difference of luminosity in the left area ... is it real or an effect (that can be surely explained ... ) ?

[Dantist]

I could measure an average difference of 4 on 256 levels higher (lighter) on the 2nd view. Some few more details inside the red cable or the left darksides of every stuff.

[ammitsboel]

Here's more of a real shot to make up for the boring color stuff.
The scene was badly lit(on the color shots), with sunlight from a dim window on the right and a warmer light from a window closer to the left.

[Eoin]

First is exposed at 1/15th and the second is exposed at 1/11th

1st jpg

White Balance : Custom
Temperature : 5333
Tint : +16
Exposure : 0.00
Shadows : 12
Brightness : +11
Contrast : +31
Saturation : 0
Sharpness : 0
Luminance Smoothing : 0
Color Noise Reduction : 0
Chromatic Aberration R : 0
Chromatic Aberration B : 0
Vignette Amount : 0
Shadow Tint : 0
Red Hue : 0
Red Saturation : 0
Green Hue : 0
Green Saturation : 0
Blue Hue : 0
Blue Saturation : 0
Fill Light : 0
Vibrance : 0
Highlight Recovery : 13

2nd Jpg

White Balance : Custom
Temperature : 5333
Tint : +16
Exposure : 0.00
Shadows : 9
Brightness : +28
Contrast : +31
Saturation : 0
Sharpness : 0
Luminance Smoothing : 0
Color Noise Reduction : 0
Chromatic Aberration R : 0
Chromatic Aberration B : 0
Vignette Amount : 0
Shadow Tint : 0
Red Hue : 0
Red Saturation : 0
Green Hue : 0
Green Saturation : 0
Blue Hue : 0
Blue Saturation : 0
Fill Light : 0
Vibrance : 0
Highlight Recovery : 4

[ljclark]

Why don't people just post their pictures and give us the info?

In this particular case, it could hardly be considered a controlled test.

[badpets]

i think your discover is very interesting!

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by ljclark

Why don't people just post their pictures and give us the info?

In this particular case, it could hardly be considered a controlled test.

I guess I'm "people" then?
The slight difference in the parameters was to make the photos look as similar as possible.
The opening post shows firmware 1.102 at the top and 1.201 at the bottom.

I believe that a certain amount of certainty in ones own methods are needed in order to accept and allow others to do things differently.
We all choose what we think makes most sense.