Vista

[Olsen]

My Phase One that came with my M8 does not work on my new lap top with Vista. What can I do?

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by Olsen

My Phase One that came with my M8 does not work on my new lap top with Vista. What can I do?

First is to find out why.
Is it the serial?
Is it the version of C1?
Have you tried downloading a newer version of it?

Are you in love with Vista?
The SP1 destroys monitor color control, which makes it hard to work in either C1, photoshop or almost any other software.

/Henrik

[Olsen]

Originally Posted by ammitsboel

First is to find out why.
Is it the serial?
Is it the version of C1?
Have you tried downloading a newer version of it?

Are you in love with Vista?
The SP1 destroys monitor color control, which makes it hard to work in either C1, photoshop or almost any other software.

/Henrik

It is the Capture One LE that came included with the camera - with '1 free software up date'. Do this first up date include a fix for the Vista?

I am not at all in love with Vista, but Vista is what the PC's come with these days. I don't even know what a SP1 is, but find the Vista software far better prepared for handling of camera and scanned files. I thought that something new ment something better when Microsoft up grades their systems. Or?

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by Olsen

It is the Capture One LE that came included with the camera - with '1 free software up date'. Do this first up date include a fix for the Vista?

I am not at all in love with Vista, but Vista is what the PC's come with these days. I don't even know what a SP1 is, but find the Vista software far better prepared for handling of camera and scanned files. I thought that something new ment something better when Microsoft up grades their systems. Or?

It doesn't hurt to try?

SP1 is service pack one, in this case for Vista.
A friend once told me that the problem with Bill Gates is that he's got no style and the problem with Steve Jobs is that he's got only style. Even though this may seem a bit hard, I find it a fun and useful attempt to say something about these two different guys and their companies products. I can't explain why SP1 doesn't work with color control, it just doesn't.
If you are asked to download the upgrade then wait until it supports color control, search the internet for answers.

I'm on the mac, but work on pc's for my daily IT work.
The mac was a choice, the pc was not.

/Henrik

[Ivar B]

Originally Posted by Olsen

My Phase One that came with my M8 does not work on my new lap top with Vista. What can I do?

Correct, it will not run. However, there is an easy fix:

http://www.phaseone.com/HOME/Content...ite%20-%20Main

Kind Regards

Ivar

[scott kirkpatrick]

Does Vista prevent one from color-managing the monitor output? If so, that's bad indeed. I use an Eye-One photometer to keep my laptop screen at gamma of 2.2 and the screen has now aged to the point where it cannot be fully calibrated, so a new machine seems to be in the cards. I have also heard that Vista fixes or improves many issues in driver speed and file handling, but losing color fidelity would make all these irrelevant.


scott

[Shootist]

Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick

Does Vista prevent one from color-managing the monitor output? If so, that's bad indeed. I use an Eye-One photometer to keep my laptop screen at gamma of 2.2 and the screen has now aged to the point where it cannot be fully calibrated, so a new machine seems to be in the cards. I have also heard that Vista fixes or improves many issues in driver speed and file handling, but losing color fidelity would make all these irrelevant.


scott

Scott IMHO Vista fixes nothing and only add bloat and incompatibility. Like C1 3.7.7 would even run on Vista, so I've heard.
There are numerous threads all around the net on these facts.

[RobertW]

Capture One website has free upgrade for Vista compatibility. You need to know your Vista Serial number as I seem to recall .

Best
Rob

[ammitsboel]

Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick

Does Vista prevent one from color-managing the monitor output? If so, that's bad indeed. I use an Eye-One photometer to keep my laptop screen at gamma of 2.2 and the screen has now aged to the point where it cannot be fully calibrated, so a new machine seems to be in the cards. I have also heard that Vista fixes or improves many issues in driver speed and file handling, but losing color fidelity would make all these irrelevant.


scott

As I wrote earlier SP1 does not support it.
If you have Vista you can't upgrade to SP1 if you want to keep your monitor calibration.

If I was asked, I wouldn't recommend Vista for work that involves either color or audio.
There is a strong sense of counter intuitive actions/reactions when working on just about any MS OS, which I think can be good for mathematical business but bad for creative business.

/Henrik

[Olsen]

Originally Posted by RobertW

Capture One website has free upgrade for Vista compatibility. You need to know your Vista Serial number as I seem to recall .

Best
Rob

I can assure you it don't. Ivar point to that the 7.7.8 version might. I don't have that anymore. I have to find an old PC, install the original 7.7.6 version, up grade it to at 7.7.8 - at least, move it to my Vista PC and try again. Puh!

Right now, my M8 is parked. I have no way of handling the RAW files. Well, I use my 1Ds III, but I miss the M8 and want it up and running again, ofcause. May be this is the instance where I should get hold of another RAW converter. - I wasn't that impressed with C1 in the first place. That it can't handle Vista lets me down totally. Leica should have a fix for this.

What kind of RAW converters are out there that can handle DNG files on a Vista system? Any freeware?

[sean_reid]

Photoshop and Lightroom will certainly handle M8 files. I think you can get a free trial of Lightroom.

Cheers,

[Shootist]

You don't have Photoshop, CS2 or 3, or a newer version of PS Elements?

You have multiple thousands of dollars invested in camera systems and you want a FREE RAW converter?

[farnz]

Originally Posted by Olsen

What kind of RAW converters are out there that can handle DNG files on a Vista system? Any freeware?

IrfanView is (excellent) freeware and handles M8 DNG files. Personally I use it for quickly searching through large numbers of raw or DNG files without having the delay of loading them all into Lightroom or CS3. Once I've found the shot I'm looking for I load it into either LR or CS3 for whatever tweaking I want to do.
IrfanView - Official Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide

Pete.

[andybarton]

You are allowed to upgrade to version 4 of Capture One software. For free.

[jrh68uk]

>The SP1 destroys monitor color control, which makes it hard to work in either C1, photoshop or almost any other software.


I have Vista 64 with SP1 and it hasn't destroyed anything to do with colour management. The "Color Management" app works fine (Vista's equivalent of XP's "Color Control") and my Spyder2 successfully loads the calibrated profile. What exactly are you talking about here?

[stunsworth]

Originally Posted by jrh68uk

What exactly are you talking about here?

Maybe this...

Windows Vista's Gamma Table Bug — The NeoSmart Files

[jrh68uk]

I see what you mean now. Since the Spyder calibration change is subtle compared with my monitor's G2.2 6500K settings, I hadn't noticed the switch. Having just played a bit of Crysis I went to the Profile Chooser which comes with the Spyder software. Switched away from the calibrated profile and back again and I could see it being re-applied.

How annoying. Thanks for highlighting this issue and providing that link.

Edit: just tested a lock screen, as mentioned in the article: this does NOT cause a re-set of the profile on my machine. More testing to do...

[garyvot]

The early compatability issues surrounding Windows Vista (including color management) have mostly been solved with current software releases.

There were big changes in Windows Vista to address security holes in the device driver model and audio stack, and to require developers to do a proper job of supporting Limited User Accounts (the lack of support for which made this feature practically useless on Windows XP). Consequently, a lot of software had to be updated and new drivers written. It's popular to lambaste MS for this stuff, but these changes were needed.

Is Vista still too big and clumsy in places? No doubt, but in other ways it's a solid step forward. As a parent with young kids at home, Vista's Parental Controls feature (which provides safe Web surfing, gaming, and media viewing in conjunction with the afore-mentioned Limited User Accounts) is worth the upgrade all by itself.

But I digress: Capture One LE can be upgraded to Capture One 4 for free, the latest version of which supports Windows Vista with SP1. I recommend you upgrade both the OS to SP1, and C1 to version 4.

[jevidon]

I put Vista on my computer because it was offered as a free OS upgrade when it was to come out.
After less than a weekof using it, I came to a conclusion. Aside from being prettier to look at than XP, it was worthless and more trouble than it's worth. I dumped it and reinstalled XP. XP is not all that wonderful but at least it is reliable, doesn't impede you system with a lot of worthless bells and whistles and it gets the job done. My next computer will be a MAC.
Jim Evidon

[Olsen]

Originally Posted by garyvot

But I digress: Capture One LE can be upgraded to Capture One 4 for free, the latest version of which supports Windows Vista with SP1. I recommend you upgrade both the OS to SP1, and C1 to version 4.

This is new to me. How is this done?