m8 resolution at 2500 in PRINT FORMAT

[photophile]

I posted this in people first..but should probably have been here. I was actually very surprised ( Dan..you were right ) that even at iso 2500, my B&W prints were,at A3 size , excellent and in color.. almost excellent and absolutely perfect at 8X10. A whole new area of discovery! except for desaturation, no post process in lightroom at all. dng files. 35 cron -pre-saph. f4. the shot itself is just a grab. All comments welcome.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...-2500-iso.html

Mod: The photo section is the right place to post the image. Thanks.

[Stevez4]

I hope that you were using the 35 1.4 for your 2500 b/w shots. It is astounding.

[andym911]

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

[photophile]

Thank you steve.. it was a 35 cron pre-asph. Andy...curious.why would you not post such a photo in public?

[mat_mcdermott]

I'm a bit perplexed by that one too...

[Amoment]

Originally Posted by andym911

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

What a strange comment...............please explain.

[jaapv]

Originally Posted by andym911

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

Well-err... I agree that there is something to be said against the composition, but the OP stated it is a snapshot and it is an illustration of a point he wants to make. It is not fine art. I've seen worse presented in the photoforum without the above caveats.
Having said that, I fail to see how it can, by the nature of things, illustrate the quality of a print.

[photophile]

Surprised at the controversy actually. No, the small jpg can not point out the quality of the print..and no, it is absolutely not one of my better pictures, nor was it shot to be.. I was simply playing with my new toy while my kids were getting glasses. It was rather meant as an expression of my pleasurable surprise that this picture, shot at 2500 iso, and which according to so many was an almost unusable speed, actually turns out to be far, far better in print than on screen. And at substantial enlargements at that. Having had m's for 30 plus years, (4-2, 6 ) and the m8 for a month, I am relearning the possibilities and lack thereof of , using this medium. I was mostly curious how others have faired with larger prints at higher iso from this camera. Thanks for the continued comments and look forward to more.

[mat_mcdermott]

Originally Posted by photophile

Surprised at the controversy actually.

My comment wasn't directed at you for posting it. The point seemed quite obvious to me. I've always maintained that while ISO 2500 files from the M8 look really noisy on the screen they print very well. I've never printed an ISO 2500 file beyond 11x14" so can't really comment on bigger enlargements at that speed, but at that size the prints are fine.

I was perplexed that someone would think you shouldn't have posted the photo you did in public.

[innerimager]

Originally Posted by andym911

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

You might consider better what words you are willing to post on a public forum.

[danielchow]

Originally Posted by andym911

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

why not? what was suppose to be wrong with it, or inappropriate about it to your eyes?

here's an example of an ISO 2500

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...tml#post562382

[charlesphoto99]

I have a feeling he meant because it is a picture of the poster's son, not because of the pics actual merits or demerits. Some people are quite hung up on privacy stuff.

[Amoment]

Originally Posted by charlesphoto99

I have a feeling he meant because it is a picture of the poster's son, not because of the pics actual merits or demerits. Some people are quite hung up on privacy stuff.

If it was, then I find it very sad that someone should have such a hang up.

If it was a criticism of the merits of the photograph, then out of courtesy to the photographer, he should explain his comment.

[overgaardcom]

It would be interesting to have access to the (or any) real file so as to print it and see.

However, I think the 2500 ISO would be best tested in a dark place as noise is usually in the dark spots and shadows, because the sensor only "sees" 100 ISO and thus guess what might be in the dark spots. Hence the noise and/or lack of information and detail.

Or did I miss the point: which could well be about desaturation and print?

[andym911]

Originally Posted by andym911

I would not post such a shot in public, regardless of the camera ISO.
andy

Ooops...

sorry for this comment..I was in the wrong thread/forum with my comment which is related to something completely different.my mistake, apologies.

andy

[innerimager]

Thanks for clarifying this Andy. I thought it may have been an error, and thus my response was not needed. Sorry also. best...Peter

[photophile]

my thanks also andy for the clarification. had me doubting how i might have inadvertently offended someone. best. ch

[photophile]

also to the rest of you - thank you for your comments. - food for thought. perhaps some more can contribute to their printing experiences at high iso's. esp. at greater enlargements / color vs. b&w etc. thanks again. ch

[offshore]

M8, 28mm F2.8 Elmarit asph. ISO 2500. Prints beautifully at 13"X19."

[photophile]

superb photo..