Leica User Forum


Go Back   Leica User Forum > International User Forum > Digital Forum > Leica M8 Forum
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Leica M8 Forum The Leica M8 Forum is dedicated to everything around the Leica M8.

Welcome to the Leica Camera Forum!

The Leica Camera Forum is the biggest Leica community worldwide.

Please register, if you want to use all features of the Leica Forum!

Your advantages as registered member:
  • Access to all sections and images
  • Posting own topics and postings
  • Access to the buy & sell section

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free!
 

Register here!


If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Reply « Previous Thread | Next Thread »
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04/14/08, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default bests M8 lenses for landscapes

what is supposed to be the best M8 lenses for landscape photography ? I don't like very large wide angles, I am looking something like 28,35, 50 mm

thank you

Last edited by erick : 04/14/08 at 08:25 AM.
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 08:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
Philippe D.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 06/24/06
Location: Nice - Monaco
Posts: 713
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Erick, first be welcome.
Quote:
Originally Posted by erick View Post
what is supposed to be the best M8 lenses for landscape photography ? I don't like very large wide angles, I am looking something like 24, 28, 35, 50 mm equivalent on FF
They are no best lens for landscape photography. But they are lens you prefer for a given situation. Therefore, you'll get hundred of various proposal.
I do like wide angle, the 18mm have an angle of view equivalent to 24 FF, which is already quite a wide angle.
Or a 21 that's near the 28, and the 28 close to 35mm, etc.
Depending on what lens you already have and on your own view, the choice is large.
__________________
Φilip
Philippe D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 08:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
luigi bertolotti's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01/24/07
Location: Brescia
Posts: 2,818
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

It's a question on which lot of people can have very different ideas, depending on the mood that one has towards the concept of "landscape"... for some, it can mean "max sharpness and depth of focus", so max aperture isn't so important... but some other may privilege the selective focusing of landscape's "depth" (but this really is a field of use for teles, not for the lenses you quote)...
In my opinion, two rather "cheap" modern Leica lenses are an excellent choice : the Elmarit Asph 28 and the Summarit 35... having to choose one of those rather near focals, I'd prefer the 28, but if one likes to have both, a budget-wise choice could be one of them plus one Voigtlander... to say... Leica 28 asph + Voigt 35 2,5, or Leica Summarit 35 + Voigt 28 f3,5 (or 25 f4.. a little more "distant")

50 is a something "strange" focal on M8 : would I have to choose a 3 lens set for landscape, I'd go for 75 + 35 + 21 (or 18, or the WATE, Leica 16-18-21 "tri-lens, if you sit onto an appreciable pile of money... )

And of course... WELCOME to the forum !!!

Last edited by luigi bertolotti : 04/14/08 at 08:51 AM.
luigi bertolotti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 08:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

I am not looking for cheap lenses and no wide angles, my favorite range is 28-35mm


Quote:
They are no best lens for landscape photography. But they are lens you prefer for a given situation. Therefore, you'll get hundred of various proposal.
no ! ... bests lenses means bests lenses (there is nothing like : for me , for others ...), bests lenses are good at the center and the edge, good wide open to f/22 , of course sharp

I am having actuallly and Hasselblad H1 and P45 and I am interrested in buying a M8 with lenses that you can compare to Hasselblad lenses for the quality

thank you
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 08:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
Philippe D.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 06/24/06
Location: Nice - Monaco
Posts: 713
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by erick View Post
no ! ... bests lenses means bests lenses (there is nothing like : for me , for others ...), bests lenses are good at the center and the edge, good wide open to f/22 , of course sharp
This, also, is a point of view.

All Leica lens are perfect. None are "cheap".
__________________
Φilip
Philippe D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 08:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

ce n'est pas ce que j'ai pu lire ici ou ailleurs.. mais bon

Quote:
Originally Posted by luigi bertolotti View Post
In my opinion, two rather "cheap" modern Leica lenses are an excellent choice : the Elmarit Asph 28 and the Summarit 35....

I'd like to take 2 or 3 not cheap lenses : 28,35, 50 mm

thanks

Last edited by erick : 04/14/08 at 09:00 AM.
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
luigi bertolotti's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01/24/07
Location: Brescia
Posts: 2,818
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by erick View Post
ce n'est pas ce que j'ai pu lire ici ou ailleurs.. mais bon




thanks
Well... I simply was pointing out the fact that an excellent lens like the Leica 28 f2,8 Asph has a price that is not stellar like some other Leica lenses : to say ... it's about exactly HALF the price of the Summicron 28 f2 : personally, I'd not evaluate such a difference, The Summilux 35 f 1,4 is 2,5x the price of the Summarit 35 f 2,5... is it worth ? In Leica world, the term "cheap" is relative... and both the lenses I quoted are really excellent performers... can find many examples in this forum... not that I don't appreciate the value of a very luminous prime lens, Leica is very strong in this area, and they correctly put a "premium price" on this, but in landscape, for me, top aperture it's not so important as in other fields: you can put together, for example, a set of 3-4 excellent lenses for the price of 2 top luminosity: in my opinion, is a wise choice: sharpness is always at the top on Leica lenses... and the 28 and 35 I mentioned are two of Leica newest designs.

Last edited by luigi bertolotti : 04/14/08 at 09:28 AM.
luigi bertolotti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
Neuer Benutzer
 
Join Date: 11/22/05
Location: Philippines
Posts: 10
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

i reckon the 28-35-50 tri elmar would be the best for landscape, considering you only need to carry one lens and thus travel light
domgoduco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
Philippe D.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 06/24/06
Location: Nice - Monaco
Posts: 713
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

This "lens" is also sometimes perfect for landscape photography.

f-178.jpg
pinhole 28mm f/178

__________________
Φilip
Philippe D. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
luigi bertolotti's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01/24/07
Location: Brescia
Posts: 2,818
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippe D. View Post
This "lens" is also sometimes perfect for landscape photography.

Attachment 83087
pinhole 28mm f/178

I'm working to make one with an ASPHERICAL hole...
luigi bertolotti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
Neuer Benutzer
 
Join Date: 01/03/07
Location: near Wisbech
Posts: 11
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by domgoduco View Post
i reckon the 28-35-50 tri elmar would be the best for landscape, considering you only need to carry one lens and thus travel light
I definitely support this suggestion; even shooting "townscapes" it is great to change a lens by turning a ring, and I find the quality is the same as the fixed-focus lens. Try it!
Bilco10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01/27/03
Location: Frimley
Posts: 2,392
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by luigi bertolotti View Post
I'm working to make one with an ASPHERICAL hole...
Luigi, I suspect you might have difficulty marketing something called the ASPH hole...

Regards,

Bill

P.S. Back on topic, I'm in the camp of those who believe that there is no such thing as a "landscape" lens in the same way that there is no such thing as a "portrait" lens. It all depends upon the way in which you wish to capture the scene. Any Leica lens is up to the job. Whether or not they are "cheap" is of course subjective.

Regards,

Bill
__________________
Bill Palmer (Gentleman Amateur and Leica Lout)
________________________________
"God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best."
12 of my best
Some of my images
bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by luigi bertolotti View Post
Well... I simply was pointing out the fact that an excellent lens like the Leica 28 f2,8 Asph has a price that is not stellar like some other Leica lenses : to say ... it's about exactly HALF the price of the Summicron 28 f2 : personally, I'd not evaluate such a difference, The Summilux 35 f 1,4 is 2,5x the price of the Summarit 35 f 2,5... is it worth ? In Leica world, the term "cheap" is relative... and both the lenses I quoted are really excellent performers... can find many examples in this forum... not that I don't appreciate the value of a very luminous prime lens, Leica is very strong in this area, and they correctly put a "premium price" on this, but in landscape, for me, top aperture it's not so important as in other fields: you can put together, for example, a set of 3-4 excellent lenses for the price of 2 top luminosity: in my opinion, is a wise choice: sharpness is always at the top on Leica lenses... and the 28 and 35 I mentioned are two of Leica newest designs.
thank you Luigi

you are right ! for landscape photography f/5.6 is the very minimum I am using, I use f/16 90% of the time
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:49 AM   #14 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilco10 View Post
I definitely support this suggestion; even shooting "townscapes" it is great to change a lens by turning a ring, and I find the quality is the same as the fixed-focus lens. Try it!
28-35-50 tri elmar seems a perfect range, but I don't find it , do you have any link for that lens ?

thank you

Last edited by erick : 04/14/08 at 10:00 AM.
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:49 AM   #15 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippe D. View Post
This "lens" is also sometimes perfect for landscape photography.

Attachment 83087
pinhole 28mm f/178

a pinhole on digital camera and small sensor is not really the best you can use :-)
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 09:51 AM   #16 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by bill View Post
Back on topic, I'm in the camp of those who believe that there is no such thing as a "landscape" lens in the same way that there is no such thing as a "portrait" lens. It all depends upon the way in which you wish to capture the scene. Any Leica lens is up to the job. Whether or not they are "cheap" is of course subjective.

Regards,

Bill
a 600mmm is not really a landscape lens
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 10:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
Neuer Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/29/05
Posts: 4
Daumen hoch Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilco10 View Post
I definitely support this suggestion; even shooting "townscapes" it is great to change a lens by turning a ring, and I find the quality is the same as the fixed-focus lens. Try it!
+1

28-35-50 tri elmar

Last edited by max_m : 04/14/08 at 10:15 AM.
max_m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 10:09 AM   #18 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

I cannot find that lens
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 10:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
Erfahrener Benutzer
 
Join Date: 03/31/04
Location: London
Posts: 250
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

Quote:
Originally Posted by erick View Post
28-35-50 tri elmar seems a perfect range, but I don't find it , do you have any link for that lens ?

thank you
It's no longer in production. You'll have to look for second hand ones. At 28mm it has a bit of distortion but given what it is, its an excellent lens. For the M8 you're best off with a coded version though you can have any coded. There are plenty of reviews on the web, just google it.
ericperlberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04/14/08, 10:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
Benutzer
 
Join Date: 04/14/08
Location: France / Germany
Posts: 34
Default Re: bests M8 lenses for landscapes

thank you
erick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:41 PM.




Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
© juergensen.net - Andreas Jürgensen