Shoot with both eyes open?

[hankg]

How many shoot the M8 with both eyes open. With a 1.25 magnifier I find focusing is easier and my view of the world unimpeded by not having to squint looking through a peep hole. It is what makes the M for me. It sometimes takes a second for my brain to adjust to the slight right eye, left eye difference but after that it's smooth sailing.

The only improvement for me would be thinner less obtrusive frame lines that are more accurate and correct for parallax as you focus. Hopefully LCD technology will make it possible. I'd also like not to have to use the magnifier. It would be great if you could switch between 2 or 3 finder mags like a tr-elmar lens with the finder.

I think the point of the M finder is to not have a 'camera interface'. To feel like you have nothing between you and your subject. It's really the reason (combined with it's fairly compact footprint) I use the M8.

[ArtZ]

Hank,

I've just posted something for you concerning shooting with both eyes open:

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...tml#post369749

Originally Posted by ArtZ

Hank,

That's possible right now. I shoot with my eyes open from 28mm to 90mm!

You only need the MS MAG 1.35x magnifier from Megaperls Webshop

I have one sleeping in one of my M8s and I can keep both eyes wide open

On the other M8, I have the MS MAG 1.15x which I use with the MATE

PS: I find the 1.25x Leica Magnifier is not comfortable enough for keeping both eyes open. 1.35x is perfect!

[hankg]

Originally Posted by ArtZ

PS: I find the 1.25x Leica Magnifier is not comfortable enough for keeping both eyes open. 1.35x is perfect!

I had the 1.35 Megaperls but lost it. I'd assumed you would need a 1.0 finder to shoot this way but I am finding with the Poon 1.25 magnifier (brings the M8 up to a .85) i am using now it's not really a problem for me.

[ArtZ]

Originally Posted by hankg

I had the 1.35 Megaperls but lost it. I'd assumed you would need a 1.0 finder to shoot this way but I am finding with the Poon 1.25 magnifier (brings the M8 up to a .85) i am using now it's not really a problem for me.

I was using the Leica 1.25x and +1 diopter correction to shoot with both yes opened. When I got the 1.35x (which brings the M8 up to .92 and diopter correction is adjustable on the magnifier), I find much more comfortable (than 1.25x), especially under low light conditions.

I will order a second one (spare) when they will become available again.
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[Shootist]

I've tried that and don't like it. I shoot all cameras with one eye closed. I do the same when shooting a rifle with or without a scope or shotgun. About the only thing I shoot with both eyes open are my pistols and revolvers.

[Daniel Ortego]

ArtZ,
Well, I stumbled across your post and the Mag 1.35 looks interesting. I see that it’s due out again around the end of October although I wonder how us USA folks can order it. Based on the infor. from the link, it appears to be restricted to “US” in the U.S. Is this truly the case or am I reading too much into this?
Regards,

[hankg]

Originally Posted by Digital Dude

ArtZ,
Well, I stumbled across your post and the Mag 1.35 looks interesting. I see that it’s due out again around the end of October although I wonder how us USA folks can order it. Based on the infor. from the link, it appears to be restricted to “US” in the U.S. Is this truly the case or am I reading too much into this?
Regards,

You will need to have it shipped to a friend outside the US who can then send it to you.

[ArtZ]

Daniel, Hank,

If my memory is good, Dirk Rösler [dirk_at_unicircuits_dot_com] (from Magapearls) posted here in August you can order it even when you live in the US if you specify in your order that the magnifier is for a telescope or other optical device.

I suggest, Daniel, to send him an email and he will explain how you can get it delivered in the US.

He's a nice and seriuos guy (I've never met him) and I got both magnifiers in France from Japan just in 4 days. My Leica 1.25x mag has not been used since then.

TIP: If you get the 1.35x, I recommend you to buy in a harware store an O ring rubber you use on (water) tabs (0.3 €). You should insert the O ring between the diopter correction part and the part you screw to the camera. This will tight up both parts reducing the risk of changing dioptrer correction on normal use and to avoid getting dust. Besides, the magnifier looks much better.

[hankg]

Originally Posted by ArtZ

TIP: If you get the 1.35x, I recommend you to buy in a harware store an O ring rubber you use on (water) tabs (0.3 €). You should insert the O ring between the diopter correction part and the part you screw to the camera. This will tight up both parts reducing the risk of changing dioptrer correction on normal use and to avoid getting dust. Besides, the magnifier looks much better.

That's a handy tip. The diopter drove me nuts as it was always moving at the worst times.

[andybarton]

For those of us who are left-eye shooters, it makes no difference whether the right eye is open or closed.

[ArtZ]

Originally Posted by andybarton

For those of us who are left-eye shooters, it makes no difference whether the right eye is open or closed.

I was a left-eye shooter (I'm still on (D)SLR cameras) but not on the M8 since I'm using the 1.35x magnifier. It's really "easier and my view of the world unimpeded by not having to squint looking through a peep hole" as Hank said.
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[Jack_Flesher]

Originally Posted by andybarton

For those of us who are left-eye shooters, it makes no difference whether the right eye is open or closed.

I see we have that in common Andy! Interestingly, Guy is also a left-eyed shooter, but in his case he often uses it in an odd fashion, and I'm still trying to figure out how he manages:

Guy and his M8:


Closer in:


(And no, he's NEVER gonna live this one down!)

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[hankg]

Originally Posted by Jack_Flesher

I see we have that in common Andy! Interestingly, Guy is also a left-eyed shooter, but in his case he often uses it in an odd fashion, and I'm still trying to figure out how he manages:

Guy and his M8:




(And no, he's NEVER gonna live this one down!)

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Very Zen -feel the force Luke....

[Daniel Ortego]

Damn, look at the size of those hands! He makes the M8 look like something of a charm on a bracelet.
Regards,

[JeffreyTotaro]

Nice Panerai Guy is wearing too. We have that in common, but I do shoot with my eyes open, it works better for me.

I shoot left-eyed because it is my dominate eye. I can leave my right eye open even if the camera were not in front of it.

Not sure which is your dominate eye? Make a circle with your thumb and index finger held at about arms length. Look through it at some defined object with both eyes open. Now close one eye at a time and which ever eye is open when the object still remains in the circle is your dominate eye.

[Daniel Ortego]

Originally Posted by ArtZ

Daniel, Hank,

If my memory is good, Dirk Rösler [dirk_at_unicircuits_dot_com] (from Magapearls) posted here in August you can order it even when you live in the US if you specify in your order that the magnifier is for a telescope or other optical device.

I suggest, Daniel, to send him an email and he will explain how you can get it delivered in the US.[/i]

Thanks ArtZ, I have sent Dirk an email as you recommended. I'm surprised that nobody else has such a device here in the States. In any event, I'm on it.
Regards,

[guy_mancuso]

It's all Zen focusing for me . i just feel it. ROTFLMAO.

Okay it was a bloody 4:30 am call for Yosemite and the coffee was not cutting it. This trip i am bring my Espresso with me in the car and plugging it in. LOL

Left eye in reality and i close my right. The right eye is worthless


And yes i love my Panerai, best watch i ever owned and still wear it everyday. You need to treat yourself to one of these or better yet get as a present

[fotografr]

Guy is obviously shooting with his third eye here--the one behind the optional finder.

[guy_mancuso]

Give me some credit here one month with a M and i hold it correctly

[fotografr]

Originally Posted by guy_mancuso

Give me some credit here one month with a M and i hold it correctly

Yes, and it's even level.