peterjcb Posted October 18, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can someone explain how framelines work and what they mean? This is my first M8 and when I compose the subject I use the inner frameline. When I pull the front lever it seems to expand the framelines outward. Do framelines change depending what lens is on the camera.....Sorry for all the dumb questions but I only have 2 lenses right now so it's hard to judge what this all means. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted October 18, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 18, 2014 Your manual explains and shows the frame line pairs that come up for each of 6 focal lengths, which on the M8 are 24/35, 50/75 and 28/90. You see the frame lines for the lens mounted and one other. The lever brings up alternate pairs so you can get an idea of different fields of view. But if you have this basic question, then surely you have many more that will be answered by reading the entire manual as well as this FAQ. Keep in mind that the M8 sensor is cropped, so while you'll see, for instance, the 35mm frame lines when you mount a 35 mm lens, your field of view is the equivalent of 1.33x35, or about 47mm. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 18, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 18, 2014 Your manual explains and shows the frame line pairs that come up for each of 6 focal lengths, which on the M8 are 24/35, 50/75 and 28/90. You see the frame lines for the lens mounted and one other. The lever brings up alternate pairs so you can get an idea of different fields of view. But if you have this basic question, then surely you have many more that will be answered by reading the entire manual as well as this FAQ. Keep in mind that the M8 sensor is cropped, so while you'll see, for instance, the 35mm frame lines when you mount a 35 mm lens, your field of view is the equivalent of 1.33x35, or about 47mm. Jeff I believe the Framelines are adjusted to fit the smaller sensor. IE: Mount a 35mm lens and it brings up the 35mm framelines but they are adjusted smaller to match the crop sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 18, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) I believe the Framelines are adjusted to fit the smaller sensor. IE: Mount a 35mm lens and it brings up the 35mm framelines but they are adjusted smaller to match the crop sensor. That's what I said ["you'll see...the 35mm frame lines when you mount a 35 mm lens…"], and the equivalent field of view is different (47 rather than 35). Of course the focal length is still the same focal length. Jeff Edited October 18, 2014 by Jeff S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 18, 2014 Share #5 Posted October 18, 2014 M8 framelines and framelines mask: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/235714-framelines/?do=findComment&comment=2691241'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 18, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 18, 2014 Ok, let's go crazy… Anatomy of M8 frame lines Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 18, 2014 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) As others already said, your M8 shows three pairs of frame lines. Which pair is shown depends on the lens mounted on the body. When one pair is shown, you can use the lever on the front side to show another pair. Of the two frames shown at a time, each is to be used with lenses one particular focal length. The frame lines are meant to show you what will be included in the picture. They will be most accurate at one particular distance. I believe for the M8 this distance is 2m but it could be 1m; please refer to the manual. The image will contain a fair bit more than the framelines make you believe for greater distance; for a very short distance (less than the distance mentioned above, 1 or 2 meters) the image will contain a bit less than is included in the frame. The frame lines move a bit up and down as well as sidewise when you focus the lens. This is to account for the distance between the range finder and the lens which gives you a slightly different perspective. Hence, the position of the subject within the frame line will roughly correspond to the position it will have in the image. As other mentioned before, do have a look at the manual. If you happen to lack one, it can be downloaded from Leica's web site. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 18, 2014 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2014 I believe for the M8 this distance is 2m but it could be 1m; please refer to the manual. M8 is .7m. Upgraded M8, or M8.2, is 2m. The M9 is 1m. The M240 is 2m. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted October 18, 2014 Share #9 Posted October 18, 2014 M8 is .7m. Upgraded M8, or M8.2, is 2m. The M9 is 1m. The M240 is 2m. Jeff Quite true, and one of the reasons that helped me decide against keeping my M8U as a backup to my M9, or keeping the M9 as a backup to my M240. Mentally acclimating to the different calibration of each new camera was easy, but going back and forth was annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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