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Voigtlander 75/2.5 vs. Elmar-C 90/4


jonasy

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Hi everybody!

 

Recently I sold my D700 + lenses and bought a M8 instead. Yes I'm a bit crazy, but I love my M8 so far! :) I'm using it with a M-Rokkor 40/2 but I really would like a tele to complete my lens setup.

 

As I'm a student I'm restricted to the less costly lenses, I've found two candidates, Voigtlander 75/2.5 and Leica Elmar-C 90/4 which sell for the same price. So it's rather a question about which lens is the better one. My guess is something like this:

 

Voigtlander

+ Faster

+ FL easier to handle on M8

:confused: But does it pop like a Leica lens, and are there any focus issues as with other Voigtlander lenses?

 

Leica

+ Probably sharper

+ Leica-look (matches my other lens, I suppose)

:confused: Too slow and too long to be useful on a M8?

 

What would you recommend? To my surprise it was very difficult to find pictures online with M8/Elmar-C combo. Thanks in advance for any input.

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I vote for the 75 f2.5...

I haven't noticed any focus 'shift' issues with it,

but don't forget that there is a difference between

difficulty getting accurate focus with a particular lens

and a lens with an 'optical design' where the point

of focus 'shifts' between maximum aperture and

when it is stoppen down.

RLW

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I think a 75 is more useful on M8 than 90.

 

Quality wise,sharpness, they are about equal. Build quality is better on Leica.

 

A point to remember is Leica never guaranteed the 40 and 90 lenses from the CL would focus properly an M camera. The Focus cam is totally different and not as accurate. Add to the mix, focus is more critical on digital than film.

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I may be a bit off-track about this, but I think both 75 and 90 are "too long" for most purposes on the M8. I do have the 75 Heliars (f/2.5 and 1.8) that I like a lot on the M9 and on film. My old 2.8/90 Tele-Elmarit sits and sits...

 

On the M8 I have found the 50mm surprisingly useful. Maybe you would too.

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Thanks everyone, seems like the 75/2.5 is preferred here. Hopefully the store will have both when I return from the holidays, so I can try them for myself. The 75/2.5 is tempting if it focuses correctly.

 

tobey, But isn't that mostly a rumor Leica spread to avoid their customers buying cheaper CL-lenses for their M-cameras? My 40/2 has no focus issues on my M8. But of course I will try the lens before buying it anyway :)

 

Dougg, you are right of course, it will only be used as a tele for portraits, flowers, landscapes, cityscapes etc when I want the compressed tele look/background blur. Otherwise I will stick to my 40/2 :)

 

50 mm doesn't really fit that well in my lens setup, I'd like a 50 mm eqv and something 85-100 eqv. A 35/75 (ish) setup suits me well on a M8 I think, and my experience from the D700 was that more lenses = more hassle. I think I have to wait until I upgrade to a M9 before I buy a 50 mm lens.

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Was not a rumor. It was officially published. People did not seem to complain when film was king so perhaps the problem was exaggerated or people were not critical enough. Maybe they satisfied lowish customer standards, but not Leica exacting standards. I can not prove a thing as I have none of these lenses.

 

The issue now is digital and focus errors have come to light that were never noticed before, focus shift for one. Leica certainly know of this. I have books discussing the focus shift in the 50 1.0. If you compensated, it was as sharp as any other fifty.

 

Try before you buy on your camera.

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And now that I took a closer look at my test shots of this afternoon, the Elmar-c 90mm f/4 images seem really low in contrast, and there's a unhealthy amount of purple fringing in it. But then, I never thought I'd use the lens, it just came as part of the Leica CL package. The CL's summicron-c 40mm f/2 is a lot better than this one.

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