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Jupiter lenses on M8??


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Anyone tried Jupiter 3,8 or 9 with adapter on the M8? I'm thinking of getting one or two of them for a little dreamy character for portraits and other stuff. They are very cheap so it would be fun to at least try. I'm interested in your opinions!

 

I have tried the Jupiter 9 and it worked well.

 

I have not tried the Jupiter 12 because of the crazy rear element. Issues are that it may affect the metering and may hit the shutter.

 

Waiting for someone else to give it a shot <grin>

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Hi all,

 

thought I might bring this oll' thread back to live... :)

 

Yesterday I bought a Jupiter 50 and an 85...

 

Martin, and/or others, any experience (since last january) with Jupiter lenses on our beloved M8?

 

Peter

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Hi all,

thought I might bring this oll' thread back to live... :)

Yesterday I bought a Jupiter 50 and an 85...

I had bought an 85. Unfortunately the RF focusing is far off, seems a common illness of Russian lenses. I heard that the focusing plane of FEDs is slightly different from Leicas.

Do yours focus correctly on the M8?

 

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Jupiter 9 85mm f/2.0 @ max. aperture (f/2.0)

All images RAW + C1, no sharpening, saved for Web in PS CS2

 

100% crop - Rangefinder focused here

 

100% crop - Maximum sharpness is here

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Thanks Peter.

 

I'll receive mine soon, and do the same test.

Over at Rangefinder the same focus problems are being reported.

But when they are shimmed to the Leica they're supposedly working fine with nice bokeh and colour rendition.

 

I'll check in later with the results of my test.

 

Peter

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Than I got lucky. Nothing to put in the bin just yet.

 

the 50/2 and the 85/2 came in this morning. (€100,- all together)

 

The 50 has dirt (fungus?) on the outer sides of the frontlens, but at f2,8 it's of no importance, I hope...

 

Is fungus contagious? Should I keep the Russians away from the Germans?

 

The rangefinfer works with the 50/75 adapter. My wife took some close-up portraits of me just to check, but I'm wouldn't dare posting them here. (Don't want to scare anyone...)

 

These are at infinity...

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I have the jupiter 12 (35mm) and it works and focuses fine. It is my smallest lens. the only problem is that I dont have a back cap that fits.

 

this is a picture to check focus

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Martin,

I've tried Russian 35/2.8, 50/2, 50/3.5, 85/2 and 135/4 with the M8.

Backfocusing noticed with 85/2.

35/2.8 and 50/3.5 paint coldish, 135/4 and 85/2 warmish, and 50/2 paints neutral. But, the colour (lack of) neutrality could depend on the production batch!

In terms of sharpness, they are way behind Leica lenses (some would say that the comparison with Leica lenses is unfair, and even cruel).

Main diferences are noticable at full aperture; only at the 3rd aperture the sharpness significantly improves, but the comparison frame to frame (with Leica lenses) of the same scene shows the difference. For instance, the 35/2.8 at 1/5.6 is hardly comparable to the 30 years old Summicron 35mm at full aperture.

In general for all mentioned lenses, especially in shadows, there is a lack of details and resolution, those parts are dull. But in rich daylight, their drawbacks are less noticeable.

Combined with the M8's crispness, one could say that the mutual compensation may give satisfactory (?what is this?) results in daylight.

With some patience, I succeded to guess the difference in the backfocusing of 85/2 in order to achieve correct(?) focusing of the interesting parts, and can tell you that the bookeh was fine. Since it is in general a soft lens, it could be a fine lens for portraiture of ladies and children. It's softness is still different to the softness of the legendary Summar 50/2; different fingerprint. And totally different to Elmarit 90mm!!!

 

All in all, it is interesting to try.

 

Have fun, Dejan

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OK here are a few more test shots.

 

The 85/2.0 @ 2,8/250 just before a thunderstorm in the park.

 

It was dark; 1250 ISO...

 

Just have to learn to focus more accurate...

 

Depth of field is 3 cm, but I love the dreamy soft OOF....

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I've bought on eBay a Jupiter-9 85mm of 1961, all silver. It was in good conditions for a Russian lens, but I was not at all satisfied with the performance of this lens on the M8. The focusing was very casual and sometimes the pictures were very sharp other times were very flou. It was depending on too many factors such as aperture, times, light conditions. And backfocused a lot

So, in the end, I've sold it back on eBay.

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I have a Jupiter 8 which couples correctly on my M8 and is hard to distinguish from my old rigid Chrome 50 Summicron at f5.6. No problem separating them at f2 though! It cost me £15 last year from a local photo shop which included stripping and cleaning a pint of oil off the iris blades.

 

I also have a 53mm f2.8 from a Fed 4L which becomes progressively less accurate in focusing as the range shortens, not by much, but enough to take the edge off the otherwise quite good performance. And I have a scruffy 135/4 which does couple correctly when you get the r/f images lined up EXACTLY. No margin for error.

 

In the past I had an 85mm f2 that was absolutely spot-on from one metre to infinity with my M2. Maybe I was lucky with it.

 

Soviet/Russian lenses have always been something of a lottery in my experience which goes back to the 1960s.

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Jupiter 3 on my M8

Shot in Morro Bay, California as the sun was going down

This lens works well for this situation

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