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Old 21.01.2010, 23:31   #1 (permalink)
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Default Eye Glass Wearer with M8.2 Question

I wear wire rimmed thin progressive lens glasses.
It would be better to be able to use them with the M8.2

Which lens magnifier would be best if I only plan to use 28mm and 35mm lenses?
Is any particular eyecup preferable?

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Old 21.01.2010, 23:55   #2 (permalink)
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The M8.2 is no better for glasses. The change is the frame lines are more accurate for 2m to distance.

You do not generally need a magnifier for the lenses you mentioned. Don't forget that you can choose what part of your progressive lens to look through into the viewfinder and it might help at near distances.

I think most do not use an eye cup. Maybe, someone else can answer this for you.
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Old 21.01.2010, 23:57   #3 (permalink)
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I wear wire rimmed thin progressive lens glasses.
It would be better to be able to use them with the M8.2

Which lens magnifier would be best if I only plan to use 28mm and 35mm lenses?
Is any particular eyecup preferable?

Thanks.

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Mark--I can't speak to the eyecup. Sorry. I agree with RickLeica that I don't think that many people are using them.

I am a glasses wearer and I always use the Leica 1.25x magnifier when shooting 50mm and up (all apertures) and the 35mm at f/2 (or below, down to f/1.2). If I'm going to be shooting f/2.8+ I'll take it off.

The 35mm framelines *cannot* be seen completely when wearing eyeglasses and using the 1.25x magnifier. Even when pressing your glasses firmly against the magnifier you have to roll your eyeball around to see them. (50mm framelines are fully visible with the 1.25x magnifier, BTW. I think the 28mm framelines will not be useable at all for you, with a 1.25x magnifier.)

I would add that if you are an "f/4" (and above) shooter, the magnifier isn't needed--you should have enough DOF to deal with any focusing imperfections, give or take.

It's the f/2 (and below) shooting for which I recommend a magnifier to nail focus.

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Old 22.01.2010, 11:23   #4 (permalink)
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Best solution - use contacts! Add magnifiers to taste as rquired.

I (am highly presbyopic) found that using eyeglasses on an M8 is not a option - with glasses the camera skids around on the lens, take them off and you cant see the controls, you cant see the 24mm frames properly, etc. etc.

My solution is to wear Contacts, which are +3.5D in my left eye and +2D in my right eye.

This gives me working range of (monocular) vision from about 2ft to 6 ft. fine for desk/computer work and for 'out and about'.

In order to meet Driving regulations I also have a pair of 'complementary' glasses which give me the middle to far distance vision required, for use in the car.

I went down the above route for use when out with the M8, but I now find that I wear contacts daily (1monthly disposables are not that expensive). I now hate wearing glasses.

Talk to your optician and give it a try!
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Old 22.01.2010, 11:48   #5 (permalink)
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i choose the -1.5 dioptri adjustment and take my glasses off, works fine for me, i cannot were contacts.

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I wear wire rimmed thin progressive lens glasses.
It would be better to be able to use them with the M8.2

Which lens magnifier would be best if I only plan to use 28mm and 35mm lenses?
Is any particular eyecup preferable?

Thanks.

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A magnifier is particularly useless for this situation. It will block out the framelines and - what is worse- magnify the fuzziness like enlarging an OOF photograph. The thing to do is to get the correct dioptre correction lens for your viewfinder. Or indeed use your current glasses and an eyecup. Tim Isaacs sells a really nice one.
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The problem with using a dioptre lens is the constant taking your glasses on and off. I had one, used it for about a week, then sold it on. It was a PITA.

The idea of wandering about with glasses on a string around my neck is one that I wasn't prepared to contemplate until I reach my eighth decade.

Contacts are a solution if you get on with them, as are the more permanent (but also potentially compromised, IMHO) laser treatments available. (Having said that, if I were younger, or other health issues weren't a factor, I might still consider the laser route)

I am only -2D in both eyes, but with an astigmatism in the left (strongest) one, btw. Consequently, I can walk about without my glasses and not bump into people and trees.
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Old 22.01.2010, 13:15   #8 (permalink)
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The idea of wandering about with glasses on a string around my neck is one that I wasn't prepared to contemplate until I reach my eighth decade.
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Old 22.01.2010, 14:27   #9 (permalink)
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On the M8, all but the 24mm framelines are easy to view for eyeglass wearers with no eyecup.
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At 72 you and I are in the same boat more or less.
I'm fine with them around my neck...very convenient!

But are you able to use the M8 successfully with your glasses?

I'm not about to get contacts.


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The problem with using a dioptre lens is the constant taking your glasses on and off. I had one, used it for about a week, then sold it on. It was a PITA.

The idea of wandering about with glasses on a string around my neck is one that I wasn't prepared to contemplate until I reach my eighth decade.

Contacts are a solution if you get on with them, as are the more permanent (but also potentially compromised, IMHO) laser treatments available. (Having said that, if I were younger, or other health issues weren't a factor, I might still consider the laser route)

I am only -2D in both eyes, but with an astigmatism in the left (strongest) one, btw. Consequently, I can walk about without my glasses and not bump into people and trees.
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On the M8, all but the 24mm framelines are easy to view for eyeglass wearers with no eyecup.
Yes, but not when the 1.25x magnifier is attached.
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I used the 1.25 magnifier with a 35mm lens for a while but in the end decided it was not for me and I've gotten used to focusing with my glasses on.
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Reasonable minds can differ on this. I wear progressives and have found they don't work well at all with any of my cameras of any type. I installed diopters on my RF Leicas and adjusted the eyepiece diopters on my Leica and Nikon SLRs/DSLRs. I find that I can read menus, etc. and otherwise manipulate all the controls on the cameras without my glasses well enough that I just stick them in my shirt pocket when I start shooting.

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The problem with using a dioptre lens is the constant taking your glasses on and off. I had one, used it for about a week, then sold it on. It was a PITA.

The idea of wandering about with glasses on a string around my neck is one that I wasn't prepared to contemplate until I reach my eighth decade.

Contacts are a solution if you get on with them, as are the more permanent (but also potentially compromised, IMHO) laser treatments available. (Having said that, if I were younger, or other health issues weren't a factor, I might still consider the laser route)

I am only -2D in both eyes, but with an astigmatism in the left (strongest) one, btw. Consequently, I can walk about without my glasses and not bump into people and trees.
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Old 22.01.2010, 22:50   #14 (permalink)
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I'm with John on this. But it might have to do with how far out your vision is.; At +1.5, I don't find it hard to have my glasses on my head and use a diopter. Maybe I have just gotten use to it with my Nikons.
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