hockey44 Posted September 1, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys, Forgive this question if the answer is an obvious "no". Just curious if my M240 can be modified to increase buffer size to 2gb as MP? Would I be simply dreaming to think it would be an easy "swap this and add that" and voila....I guess I had naively hoped that Leica would have designed such upgrade possibilities....thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjh Posted September 1, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2014 Short of swapping the motherboard I don’t think so. The RAM chips are soldered to the motherboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naper Posted September 1, 2014 Share #3 Posted September 1, 2014 The upgrade is easy. Trade your M240 in for a M240 P. Simple as that !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted September 1, 2014 Share #4 Posted September 1, 2014 Concerning the money involved, it wouldn't be a 'simple' task for me. Lucky I don't feel the need to upgrade, I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 1, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2014 Me neither. I never ran into the buffer on my M9 either. If these cameras had a fast framing rate it might be a different story. Or maybe shooting video demands more from the buffer...Idk, never shot video, never wanted to learn about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 1, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2014 Or maybe shooting video demands more from the buffer... No, shooting video does not demand more from the buffer. It actually demands less Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 1, 2014 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Me neither. I never ran into the buffer on my M9 either. I did. Rarely, as I am not a particularly fast shooter, but is not that hard to hit that limit with the M9, and not just in burst mode. With the M (Typ 240) I never any such issues. So for me the doubled buffer size of the M-P would not be a reason to upgrade, but then I rarely if ever use burst mode. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted September 1, 2014 Share #8 Posted September 1, 2014 Never a buffer issue here, I will keep my old slow M240 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 2, 2014 Share #9 Posted September 2, 2014 I think I could get a buffer overrun with the M9 when doing exposure series. Not with the M, though, even when doing 5 frames apiece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 2, 2014 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2014 I easily hit buffer saturation with the M when getting all the shots needed for ultra-high resolution images. This is really annoying, also because seems to me that the real problem is the low flush speed to SD, not the buffer. I will not upgrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 2, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2014 seems to me that the real problem is the low flush speed to SD, not the buffer. Do you know of any other reason for inserting a buffer or queue than a limited processing speed? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 2, 2014 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2014 Concerning the money involved, it wouldn't be a 'simple' task for me. Lucky I don't feel the need to upgrade, I guess. There would probably be little price difference between swapping and upgrading... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted September 2, 2014 Share #13 Posted September 2, 2014 They both are not simple tasks for me. Wouldn't want to spend my nights by myself in the garden for a full year round... Just extremely happy with the camera as is, especially with its latest firmware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 2, 2014 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) Do you know of any other reason for inserting a buffer or queue than a limited processing speed? Do you know how increasing the buffer or queue will increase the M processing speed ? I don't. From Leica's US site: "With its two gigabyte buffer memory, the Leica M-P is twice as fast at capturing shots in sequence as the Leica M." This is misleading, to say the least. Edited September 2, 2014 by CheshireCat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 2, 2014 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2014 Leica's wonderful translation department in action again...: "Doppelt so gut" is translated as "Twice as fast", whilst a quick glance in dictionary would have learnt that "gut" means "good".... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 2, 2014 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2014 I easily hit buffer saturation with the M when getting all the shots needed for ultra-high resolution images.This is really annoying, also because seems to me that the real problem is the low flush speed to SD, not the buffer. I will not upgrade. Again: the buffer is here for obvious reasons. Doubling the buffer size will let you take more than double the number of frames before the camera stalls. Whether this will suffice for your super resolution mosaic images depends largely on the number of shots and on the frequency at which you are shooting. Since you find it annoying that the camera stalls within your sequences, you may have reason to change to the later model. Up to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 2, 2014 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2014 Leica's wonderful translation department in action again...: "Doppelt so gut" is translated as "Twice as fast", whilst a quick glance in dictionary would have learnt that "gut" means "good".... Ignorance is not an excuse. Also because they didn't translate the final part of the German site sentence: "Mit einem zwei Gigabyte großen Arbeitsspeicher ist die Leica M-P doppelt so gut für die Aufnahme schneller Bildsequenzen gerüstet wie die Leica M und bleibt demnach zweimal so lange schussbereit." The German text is already misleading, but the English "translation" is simply a false claim that should be fixed asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 2, 2014 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2014 Well, it is not really misleading to say that is twice as good for fast series and that it ready for actuation for twice as long, I would say, in marketing-speak, that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted September 2, 2014 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2014 The German text is already misleading, It is not. Your rhetoric is funny. You state that you often take series of pictures where the camera overruns the buffer. Then you proceed to state in no uncertain terms that you will not buy the camera which might have a sufficiently large buffer and emphasize a phrase in the advert you don't like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 2, 2014 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2014 Well, it is not really misleading to say that is twice as good for fast series and that it is ready for actuation for twice as long, I would say, in marketing-speak, that is. The misleading part is "twice as good for fast series" that may be interpreted as "twice the framerate". Also notice the "and" ("und" in German) in the sentence that should be replaced by "because" to avoid people thinking there are two new features instead of just one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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