viboons Posted December 8, 2014 Share #1 Posted December 8, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My daughter's sunglass shape was distorted. Can anyone give me a clue how this happen and how to avoid? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238202-strange-effect-from-35mm-lux-fle/?do=findComment&comment=2723633'>More sharing options...
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gvaliquette Posted December 8, 2014 Share #2 Posted December 8, 2014 My daughter's sunglass shape was distorted. Can anyone give me a clue how this happen and how to avoid? ? Overwhelming flare from the window behind, to her left ? Or, maybe, sensor overload and saturation ("burn-out") ? Close the window blind? Guy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted December 8, 2014 Share #3 Posted December 8, 2014 ...Or, maybe, sensor overload and saturation ("burn-out") ? Yes, since the lacking part of the sunglasses follows exactly the contour of her face, I believe this is a classical case of full sensor overload due to too much light. Andy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 8, 2014 Share #4 Posted December 8, 2014 Burnout. A couple stops undersposure and then bringing up shadows in post would help in this case. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 8, 2014 Share #5 Posted December 8, 2014 Yes or simply lower highlights and/or contrast in your raw converter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 8, 2014 Share #6 Posted December 8, 2014 It would be interesting if the OP could post an image after the suggested changes in processing. TIA. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viboons Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted December 9, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you for you all. The 3 photos were adjusted in LR5.7 #1 -100 Highlight #2 -100 Contrast #3 -100 both Highlight & Contrast Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238202-strange-effect-from-35mm-lux-fle/?do=findComment&comment=2724331'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 9, 2014 Share #8 Posted December 9, 2014 Extreme local adjustments required (to window area and adjacent to glasses), but even then I suspect highlights are blown beyond recovery. The solution is better exposure to start (or a closed window shade). Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted December 9, 2014 Share #9 Posted December 9, 2014 +1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted December 9, 2014 Share #10 Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) My impression from the beginning. I am afraid the exposure is beyond PP recovery possibilities. What is blown out is lost forever; it has never been there in the first place! Guy. Edited December 9, 2014 by gvaliquette 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 10, 2014 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2014 +1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viboons Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted December 10, 2014 This is the photo when I try to hard not to blow the brighter area and correct in the LR. The second photo, the cropped, show horizontal stripes. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238202-strange-effect-from-35mm-lux-fle/?do=findComment&comment=2725125'>More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 10, 2014 Share #13 Posted December 10, 2014 What was the ISO setting for that shot ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 10, 2014 Share #14 Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) And are you shooting .DNG raw pictures, or .jpg originals? The two pictures you have shown so far are of scenes with extreme contrast ranges. You simply cannot expect to get detail in black hair, shaded under a hat, under a roof - and also get detail in sunlit white surfaces. Except (maybe) with a) color negative film, or using high dynamic range (HDR) techniques (shoot multiple bracketed exposures with a tripod, and use Lightroom to combine them for the maximum amount of detail range. What does that second portrait look like - straight from the camera with no special processing in LR? (By the way - none of this has to do with 35 FLE lens itself. While it is a modern contrasty lens compared to some historical lenses, most lenses would produce similar problems in similar light.) Edited December 10, 2014 by adan 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted December 11, 2014 Share #15 Posted December 11, 2014 Agree with Andy. Actually, an older, lower contrast lens, such as a pre-aspherical Summicron, might give a little more latitude, but don't expect miracles. You would probably gain only one, or, at the most, two stops, nothing dramatic. Guy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 11, 2014 Share #16 Posted December 11, 2014 What Andy said. Plus, based on what I see here, I think you might benefit from some LR tutorials. Despite the poor exposures, a lot more could be accomplished than what you show. If you haven't already, you might check out these free Julieanne Kost videos, as well as consider books by Kelby or Evening. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viboons Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) The ISO is 160 f2.0 1/125 sec. and +4.0 exposure in LR5.7 I know I made wrong exposure and trying to recover in LR is not working. However; what I wonder is that I took another shot with in 5-10 seconds and with the same setting but had no horizontal line. Thanks to confirm me that nothing wrong with my 35mm Lux FLE. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 11, 2014 by viboons Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/238202-strange-effect-from-35mm-lux-fle/?do=findComment&comment=2726133'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 11, 2014 Share #18 Posted December 11, 2014 Exactly…and you can still do a lot more with LR using global...and local... controls. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted December 11, 2014 Share #19 Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Extreme local adjustments required (to window area and adjacent to glasses), but even then I suspect highlights are blown beyond recovery. The solution is better exposure to start (or a closed window shade). Jeff The airplane shot looks well exposed to me. I'm surprised that the camera would have just ignored information due to the backlight. It's not just edges of the sunglasses/face that have been affected but approx. 50% of the sunglasses have simply not registered. I have the same lens but use it with film. I have shot it straight at strong light sources many times, and metered properly, but I have never seen this phenomenon. Edited December 11, 2014 by philipus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted December 11, 2014 Share #20 Posted December 11, 2014 However; what I wonder is that I took another shot with in 5-10 seconds and with the same setting but had no horizontal line. You have probably rotated the first shot, and not the second shot. Rotating pictures may produce stripe artifacts (interference between sensor noise pattern and rotation algorithm). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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