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In praise of Mandler's 35mm Summilux-M


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Its a bit of a cult lens. Small, light, neat, quirky (cannot be coded physically, no filter thread and Series 7 filters in that so bendable 12504 hood), and lovely to use (IMO anyway - I'm a fan). Surprisingly good image 'quality' at mid apertures with fine detail well recorded, but wide open you either love or hate it - soft and smeary. When designed it was state of the art and with available glass types and technology it could probably not have been improved - a real accolade to its designer. Here's an example of its wide open performance at a reasonably close distance (M9, 1/60s at f/1.4 and base ISO, full frame and 100% crop), it better at infinity - feel free to add other examples of its attributes.

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Its wide open performance at infinity is interesting. Fine detail exists in the centre and is retained at reasonable levels until right into the corners when it simply cannot cope at all and blurs badly. Its not up to current aspherical lens standards, but with some post sharpening and processing (which I have not done in any of these images) its not as bad a performer as might be expected given the age of its design. Vignetting (accentuated here in the sky) is an issue. All in all quite old fashioned performance but not unpleasant and it certainly can be used to good effect.

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At f/11 performance isn't bad at all with plenty of detail centrally and across much of the frame except the very corners which remain no more than satisfactory. Considering its age, flare, which can be an issue at times, is often surprisingly well controlled.

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11860 (version 2 - titanium), 11869 (version 1 - black paint with chrome front rim), 11870 (version 1 - silver with chrome front rim), 11870 again (version 2 - black anodized), 11871 (version 1 - silver "RF" with goggles & chrome front rim), 11871 again (version 2 - black anodized with goggles & chrome front rim), 11872 (version 1 - black paint "RF" with goggles & chrome front rim) ... if i'm not wrong ... 11870 version 2 here:

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The one where the #12504 lens hood spins round and around?

Until it gets bent. I have a 'good' one and a perfectly functional 'straightened' one which Malcolm Taylor kindly reshaped so that it screwed and unscrewed again. I tend to use the tattier straightened one.....

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Very small too...

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I've been shooting almost exclusively with this lens for the past year on my Leica M-E. Most all of the photographs on my Blog and Portfolio are made with this jewel.

 

You can use a 49mm filter in the Series VII Hood that "spins" around as that's what I've done using a 3 stop ND filter to shoot wide open.

 

I bought my copy from Classic Connection and I don't think it had ever been mounted on a camera.

 

However, I've recently purchased the 35 Lux ASPH. version (pre-FLE) and will be selling the pre-ASPH version this coming week for the following reasons:

 

  1. Flares too easily. (I enjoy high contrast scenes and want to stay wide open when I shoot that way and you have to be very careful with the pre-ASPH lens in this matter).
     
  2. Do not like the "glow" that is created around out of focus lights in the background when shooting wide open.
     
  3. I find myself shooting at F2.0 most of the time instead of f1.4 when I want to be at f1.4
     
  4. The non-standard filter mount can be a pain.

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Its a bit of a cult lens. Small, light, neat, quirky (cannot be coded physically, no filter thread and Series 7 filters in that so bendable 12504 hood), and lovely to use (IMO anyway - I'm a fan).

 

PDK

 

The reason I wanted to verify you were discussing some variation of the #11870 is that mine has recently been 6 bit coded by DAG. It took some time to get it done, but he uses a machine shop that does some good work for him. If I cannot 6 bit code a lens, it throws off my statistics on lens use, so this became very interesting for me. He also coded a Mandler 50/1.4 that Leica would not 6 bit code for me.

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However, I've recently purchased the 35 Lux ASPH. version (pre-FLE) and will be selling the pre-ASPH version this coming week for the following reasons.....

Yes, I have the pre-FLE asph. too but I can't bear to not have the pre-asph. having owned two in the past and regretted parting with them!

..... mine has recently been 6 bit coded by DAG.....

Malcolm Taylor will code them too I believe, but I was actually referring to Leica's inability to code them as I suspect few will be coded by other specialists.

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yes, i used the 35mm lux asph code with mine, but mostly for the identification. coding was done in the netherlands.

 

greetings from hamburg

 

rick

 

Al,

 

This brings up an interesting question. If Leica will not code a lens, that lens will not have a code assigned to it. Did you have yours coded as a 35 mm Lux ASPH?

 

Guy

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I got one of these right after the M9 came out - loved the look, but could never get over the close-focus limit. I just need to use a 35 at 0.7 meters too often.....

 

Had to "settle" for the 35 Summicron v.4 - virtually the same look and optics*, but limited to f/2.

 

*6-element double-gauss with a seventh element added behind the aperture for field flattening.

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11860 (version 2 - titanium), 11869 (version 1 - black paint with chrome front rim), 11870 (version 1 - silver with chrome front rim), 11870 again (version 2 - black anodized), 11871 (version 1 - silver "RF" with goggles & chrome front rim), 11871 again (version 2 - black anodized with goggles & chrome front rim), 11872 (version 1 - black paint "RF" with goggles & chrome front rim) ... if i'm not wrong ... 11870 version 2 here:

and here the 11870 I think I will soon sell my Cron asph ;-)

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Just to go on... my very old one... :)

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I had the black version with chrome infinity-lock for a brief time. I loveed the size and it was great for travel photography. Mounted on a A7r it didn´t protrude anything beyond the grip so that combo became my pocket rocket for a while.

Lusting for different things I let both the lens and the camera go a while back.

 

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