WestonFlyer Posted October 6, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, Can anyone help me with why Lightroom 5.6 (Windows) appears to be unable to read the .RAW files from my newly acquired D2? Having followed this thread quietly for a while, I was hoping that my first post would be far more creative than this! Sorry. I'm sure it something obvious, I just can't see it. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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williamgm Posted October 6, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 6, 2014 Welcome to the forum and the Leica Digilux 2 'owners club'. As a Mac user, I'm afraid I can't give you specific help for your Lightroom/Windows problem, other than to say that both jpg & raw files open without problem in the copy of Lightroom 5.6 I have. (I don't actually use Lightroom as I prefer Aperture, which is Mac-only). If you have Photoshop, can you open the Digilux raw files in Camera Raw? The Digilux is still listed as a supported camera (Photoshop Help | Camera Raw), so it should be possible to open them in Lightroom; if you can open them in Photoshop/Camera Raw but not Lightroom it may help point to a solution to the problem. Another thing to try is to use the free Adobe DNG convertor & convert the RAW files to DNG & see if they are recognised - maybe just try one or two initially. It shouldn't be necessary and would be an additional step but DNG does offer certain advantages as an open format (I think newer Leica cameras raw files are now DNG out of camera). Hopefully, someone else with a Windows PC & Lightroom will be able to help with a solution. Once you've solved it, I hope you enjoy your 'new' camera - I bought mine last year & it is a real pleasure to use (thanks to the excellent lens), in spite of it's dated features. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted October 7, 2014 Welcome to the forum and the Leica Digilux 2 'owners club'. As a Mac user, I'm afraid I can't give you specific help for your Lightroom/Windows problem, other than to say that both jpg & raw files open without problem in the copy of Lightroom 5.6 I have. (I don't actually use Lightroom as I prefer Aperture, which is Mac-only). If you have Photoshop, can you open the Digilux raw files in Camera Raw? The Digilux is still listed as a supported camera (Photoshop Help | Camera Raw), so it should be possible to open them in Lightroom; if you can open them in Photoshop/Camera Raw but not Lightroom it may help point to a solution to the problem. Another thing to try is to use the free Adobe DNG convertor & convert the RAW files to DNG & see if they are recognised - maybe just try one or two initially. It shouldn't be necessary and would be an additional step but DNG does offer certain advantages as an open format (I think newer Leica cameras raw files are now DNG out of camera). Hopefully, someone else with a Windows PC & Lightroom will be able to help with a solution. Once you've solved it, I hope you enjoy your 'new' camera - I bought mine last year & it is a real pleasure to use (thanks to the excellent lens), in spite of it's dated features. Thanks for the response. I've already tried the DNG Converter and it can't 'see' the files on the SD card either, given that the D2 is still a supported camera I'm at a loss at the moment, I've even tried different SD cards. As an aside, I'm not sure if people are aware but I've had an e-mail from Leica in Germany having contacted them about sensor exchange service. I was aware that 'free' exchange was no longer available, but apparently they are no longer offering it as a paid for service now either. So if they break now it looks like that's it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgm Posted October 7, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 7, 2014 Very odd. Did you format the cards in the camera before use? I don't know if this would make a difference but anything is worth trying (I assume the cards you're using are the plain SD cards, 2Gb maximum size?). There is a free program called SDFormatter which has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum. This was relating to issues some M9 users had with cards, but again it may help. Apart from matching the specification in the manual, I don't think the Digilux is particularly fussy about cards; I use Sandisk, Fuji, Panasonic & Samsung all with similar results (I did stock up with a few when I visited Japan last year). One other suggestion would be to search for trial versions of other raw/image processing files, download one & see if that will recognise your raw files. (Not an ideal solution, I admit) Have you only taken raw images so far? I have mine set to jpg+raw, if you use that option can you see the jpg files? (As an aside, the out-of-camera jogs are very good & many users forget raw altogether, particularly as the camera is so slow when shooting raw. I do like the security of the raw file, but many don't bother (see the well-known Overgaard review). I was aware of the news that Leica no longer has sensors to replace faulty ones; fortunately, I had mine replaced shortly after I bought it last year, but I think it was one of the last ones. There is a recent separate thread about this on the forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted October 7, 2014 Very odd. Did you format the cards in the camera before use? I don't know if this would make a difference but anything is worth trying (I assume the cards you're using are the plain SD cards, 2Gb maximum size?). There is a free program called SDFormatter which has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum. This was relating to issues some M9 users had with cards, but again it may help. Apart from matching the specification in the manual, I don't think the Digilux is particularly fussy about cards; I use Sandisk, Fuji, Panasonic & Samsung all with similar results (I did stock up with a few when I visited Japan last year).One other suggestion would be to search for trial versions of other raw/image processing files, download one & see if that will recognise your raw files. (Not an ideal solution, I admit) Have you only taken raw images so far? I have mine set to jpg+raw, if you use that option can you see the jpg files? (As an aside, the out-of-camera jogs are very good & many users forget raw altogether, particularly as the camera is so slow when shooting raw. I do like the security of the raw file, but many don't bother (see the well-known Overgaard review). I was aware of the news that Leica no longer has sensors to replace faulty ones; fortunately, I had mine replaced shortly after I bought it last year, but I think it was one of the last ones. There is a recent separate thread about this on the forum. Thanks again. Yes the cards are formatted and meet specifications (2gb etc), the JPEGs are fine and work perfectly as well. I'm more than happy with the jpegs, but like you would prefer to have the raw files available. The only thing I haven't tried is a different converter, so I think that's the next step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgm Posted October 7, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 7, 2014 I'm running out of suggestions now! I haven't used a Windows machine for many years, so I don't have the means to try one of my Digilux cards with Windows/Lightroom. Hopefully, someone else reading this thread who does use a PC might be able to throw some light on the problem you're having. I have a friend who uses Lightroom 5.6 on a PC, and as he's very much into the technical side of these things I might ask him to try opening one of my raw files on his system & see what happens (I can email hime the file). I'll try it & let you know. By the way, I assume you know that Leica (Germany) can tell you if the sensor in your camera has been replaced by the factory if you send them the serial number? Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #7 Posted October 7, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi,Can anyone help me with why Lightroom 5.6 (Windows) appears to be unable to read the .RAW files from my newly acquired D2? Having followed this thread quietly for a while, I was hoping that my first post would be far more creative than this! Sorry. I'm sure it something obvious, I just can't see it. Thanks in advance. You may want to try opening your files with either RAWTherapee and the GIMP. Both are free, open source and available in Windows version. Hope this helps, Bruno Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted October 7, 2014 I'm running out of suggestions now! I haven't used a Windows machine for many years, so I don't have the means to try one of my Digilux cards with Windows/Lightroom. Hopefully, someone else reading this thread who does use a PC might be able to throw some light on the problem you're having. I have a friend who uses Lightroom 5.6 on a PC, and as he's very much into the technical side of these things I might ask him to try opening one of my raw files on his system & see what happens (I can email hime the file). I'll try it & let you know. By the way, I assume you know that Leica (Germany) can tell you if the sensor in your camera has been replaced by the factory if you send them the serial number? Regards. Thanks for your help and suggestions, I really appreciate it. I think I'll try some of the 'freeware' and see what happens. Thinking about itmImshould probably also put this in a more appropriate thread Leica Germany have confirmed that they haven't replaced the sensor, so it is still on the original by the looks of it. Having said that they also seemed to suggest that if the sensor was going to fail it would have done by now, so fingers crossed the shutter count also suggests that it's been fired less than 7000 times from new, so it's pretty fresh too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted October 7, 2014 You may want to try opening your files with either RAWTherapee and the GIMP. Both are free, open source and available in Windows version. Hope this helps, Bruno Thanks Bruno I will give one or both of them a try! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgm Posted October 7, 2014 Share #10 Posted October 7, 2014 As suggested earlier, I sent one of my raw files to my friend Chris, who uses Windows/Lightroom 5.6. He was able to open both the raw file & a DNG version of this, made via Adobe DNG convertor, with no problems at all (he sent screenshots of both open in Lightroom) He did suggest that if you'd like to email one of your raw files, either via me or direct to him, he will be happy to see if that will open on his computer. Let me know, any quick snapshot will do as long as it's raw. By the way, which version of Windows are you using? Regards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manie_de Posted October 7, 2014 Share #11 Posted October 7, 2014 williamgm was a tad faster with his response, but I'd also like to offer you the possibility to send me a D2 RAW file and I try it with Windows 7 and LR 5.x Regards, Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted October 7, 2014 As suggested earlier, I sent one of my raw files to my friend Chris, who uses Windows/Lightroom 5.6. He was able to open both the raw file & a DNG version of this, made via Adobe DNG convertor, with no problems at all (he sent screenshots of both open in Lightroom)He did suggest that if you'd like to email one of your raw files, either via me or direct to him, he will be happy to see if that will open on his computer. Let me know, any quick snapshot will do as long as it's raw. By the way, which version of Windows are you using? Regards Thanks William, although now I'm really worried/confused I've downloaded both RAWTherapee and GIMP and neither of them are able to see the .RAW files either. I've even tried the two memory cards that I have (a Transcend 2GB and the original 64MB Leica card that came with the camera) in my LX7 and both are perfectly capable of recording RAW and Lightroom can see the resulting files from both cards. All of this appears to point towards an issue with the way the camera is recording or storing the files. JPEGs are fine by the way. Does anyone have any suggestions, is there something I'm missing? Has anyone heard of anything like this before? I know I could just carry on happily without RAW and settle for JPEG but I'm really used to RAW so would like the flexibility. Thankfully I bought the camera from a store so could just send it back, but other than this issue it's a great example so I'd prefer not to if possible. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgm Posted October 7, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 7, 2014 Well, it is certainly puzzling. Perhaps you would like to send either Martin (who replied earlier) or me - or both of us - a sample raw file to see if it will open on our computers. He has a Windows 7/Lightroom set-up, I have Mac. If we can open the files it might mean the problem lies with your computer rather than the camera. Regards, Geoff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted October 7, 2014 Well, it is certainly puzzling. Perhaps you would like to send either Martin (who replied earlier) or me - or both of us - a sample raw file to see if it will open on our computers. He has a Windows 7/Lightroom set-up, I have Mac. If we can open the files it might mean the problem lies with your computer rather than the camera. Regards, Geoff Thanks William I've sent you a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Nomad64 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #15 Posted October 7, 2014 Thankfully I bought the camera from a store so could just send it back, but other than this issue it's a great example so I'd prefer not to if possible. If nothing else wants to properly work you may consider to give back the camera and get a D-Lux 6 for about the same monies or slightly more or get a Panny LX7 (which is the same camera but without the red dot) for much less. I'll probably quite cause a stir among Digilux 2 aficionados, but the D-Lux 6 has a larger sensor, a faster lens which extends more towards the wide end and is way more compact. It shoots in RAW and in capable hands proved very competent a camera. See for yourself on Flickr. Just my 2 €c. Cheers, Bruno Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted October 8, 2014 If nothing else wants to properly work you may consider to give back the camera and get a D-Lux 6 for about the same monies or slightly more or get a Panny LX7 (which is the same camera but without the red dot) for much less. I'll probably quite cause a stir among Digilux 2 aficionados, but the D-Lux 6 has a larger sensor, a faster lens which extends more towards the wide end and is way more compact. It shoots in RAW and in capable hands proved very competent a camera. See for yourself on Flickr. Just my 2 €c. Cheers, Bruno Thanks Bruno, I think we've managed to narrow it down to a problem with the camera recording corrupt RAW files, so it looks like it may be going back sadly. Thanks for the suggestion but I actually already own an LX7, and It want the D2 as an affordable Leica option after a love affair with an M9 that I couldn't afford to keep hold of! Just as an aside though, the sensor in the D2 is bigger than the LX7, the D2 has a 2/3" inch sensor compared to the 1/1.63" version in the LX7. Looks like my Leica love affair is back on hold 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Lei Lux Posted October 8, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks Bruno, I think we've managed to narrow it down to a problem with the camera recording corrupt RAW files, so it looks like it may be going back sadly. Thanks for the suggestion but I actually already own an LX7, and It want the D2 as an affordable Leica option after a love affair with an M9 that I couldn't afford to keep hold of! Just as an aside though, the sensor in the D2 is bigger than the LX7, the D2 has a 2/3" inch sensor compared to the 1/1.63" version in the LX7. Looks like my Leica love affair is back on hold LX 7 sensor = 1/1,7" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonFlyer Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted October 8, 2014 LX 7 sensor = 1/1,7" Damn, I was 0.02 of an inch out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Lei Lux Posted October 9, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 9, 2014 Damn, I was 0.02 of an inch out! yes but have a nice day Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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