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Old 09/19/07, 03:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking for a less saturated picture.

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Old 09/19/07, 09:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What do you think? This is not natural lightning.....
I was looking for a balance between b/w and colour.
Is this a picture you believe? Or did i overdone it?

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Old 09/19/07, 10:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Harry, I think it looks great. It has an apocalyptic feel to it, a wind-swept brightness and foreboding perspective. The saturated colors are, IMHO, what give this photo something interesting.
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The soft colors and excellent composition works perfectly for me.
Nice to see this shot.
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Harry,

A very pleasing composition and rendition.

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Old 09/19/07, 11:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Harry, I think it looks great. It has an apocalyptic feel to it, a wind-swept brightness and foreboding perspective. The saturated colors are, IMHO, what give this photo something interesting.
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Jonathan, many thanks for your kind remarks and observations. There is a story here in these Dunes. In 1944 a dutch resistance group was shot here. Because of the wind moving the dunes, their body's were never found. I walked here this morning and remembered the story, that feeling did make this composition.

Azzo and Pierre-Oliver,
Thank you both for commenting, it means a lot to me.

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It is an impressive shot. I particularly like the way the oof foreground enhances the dramatic composition.
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Old 09/20/07, 03:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Fantastic shot, did you use a polarizer?

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really like this uniquely displayed composition
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Fantastic shot, did you use a polarizer?

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Julius, many thanks , i did not use a polarizer here. That would only added much more saturated colours, i believe.

Jaap and Bradley, i'm glad with your kind remarks, many thanks.

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Old 09/20/07, 10:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Harry,

Sorry to go against the grain here but is the tree on the right really in focus? It looks as if it is slightly behind the area of focus.

I would have preferred to see a larger area of sky (and the complete tree), less OOF foreground.

Finally not that comfortable with the desaturation. Looks very contrived to me, better in B&W I feel.

But this is just my view.

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Hi Harry,

Sorry to go against the grain here but is the tree on the right really in focus? It looks as if it is slightly behind the area of focus.

I would have preferred to see a larger area of sky (and the complete tree), less OOF foreground.

Finally not that comfortable with the desaturation. Looks very contrived to me, better in B&W I feel.

But this is just my view.

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Jeff, thank you for commenting. Please feel free to react. I'm glad you did.
You are right, the tree is out of focus, as i intented. The sharpness is in the front and ends towards the tree. That gives a strange feel of distance between the foreground and the second tree. Because of the difference in hight, and me lying in the sand, it is as if you can't get into it. ...
It may be disturbing and that was for me intentional. Please keep in mind the history of the execution on which i based this picture.

The dictionary says "contrived" means mechanical. Sorry for my english.
I give you that one. I don't know any natural(non-digital??!??!??) way of obtaining this 'duo-effect'. You may dislike it.
And for my own archive i did made some other pictures as you mentioned.

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I do not agree at all with what was said by Jeff. Of course everybody has his own opinion and has to express frankly his feeling.
At first see this shot was looking a bit strange but the more you look at it the more you like it, I believe.
When I red the story about this beach, I started to understand or feel even better what you have tried to express (with success) in this shot. At some point I would even imagine that this shot was taken from (inside) the sand if you see what I mean....
Strange when you know what happened there.
IMHO the focus add something to the shot and the color could not be better.
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Pierre-Olivier,
Thanks again for your kind comment.
I'm glad you think the picture 'succeded'.
Its oke for me that we(people in general) differ.
For me the "taking of this picture' was not an conscious act all the way. I knew the story and felt the need to compose it somehow. I do think and see we all compose in different ways, happily.

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Hi Harry,

'contrived' means:

planned so carefully as to seem unnatural, artificial, forced. (From the the Concise Oxford Dictionary). I think 'forced' is what I was really trying to say.

However I understand your intent and I am sorry for my own sake maybe, that I don't 'get it'.

But then I don't get lots of the 'Leica' B&W photos that are very dark and generally OOF.



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Hi Harry,

'contrived' means:

planned so carefully as to seem unnatural, artificial, forced. (From the the Concise Oxford Dictionary). I think 'forced' is what I was really trying to say.

However I understand your intent and I am sorry for my own sake maybe, that I don't 'get it'.

But then I don't get lots of the 'Leica' B&W photos that are very dark and generally OOF.



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Hello Jeff,
I understand what you're saying, i think.
'Forced' i do grasp that verb.
For me it was a study in what can i tell in one picture and what atmosphere comes accross. Which photografic and postprocess-tools do i have to use for that cause. The picture in its own sake does not tell the hole story. Its just mine impression of how i see these Dunes with that story in my mind. I guess!! A lot happens on a unconsious level. Try and error.

greetings Jeff,

I really like the way people reacted differently, many thanks for that.
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Hi Harry,

Is this the Drunense duinen south-west of Den Bosch?

If so I have walked there myself, many years ago, because during the years 77-79 we lived and worked in Den Bosch.

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Hello Jeff,


Yes, these are the Drunense Duinen nearby Den Bosch.
Is this really happening?
What a nice suprise of time.

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