carbonadam Posted February 18, 2009 Share #1 Posted February 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just picked up Midnight Meat Train on DVD and was shocked to see the main character using a Leica M4. Very cool. The film is worth checking out for the Leica and the film which is pretty crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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offshore Posted February 18, 2009 Share #2 Posted February 18, 2009 Just picked up Midnight Meat Train on DVD and was shocked to see the main character using a Leica M4. Very cool. The film is worth checking out for the Leica and the film which is pretty crazy. I had a post on this same movie here about a month ago. How did you figure out it was an M4, very few were black? M4P maybe? Crazy movie eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonadam Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted February 18, 2009 The very first shot of leon in the city right as the film begins is a close up of him holding the camera. On the DVD I just paused it and could see it said Leitz M4. I'll get a screen grab of it tomorrow and post it here. Crazy how a Leica user follows a crazed killer on a wild journey. So nuts. I had to wait for my family to go our so I could watch the film alone. No one else would watch with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonadam Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Actually, I could not wait. here are the shouts from the film off my screen. I guess it is a M4P. I am not familiar with the older models so I just saw the M4 and figured that was it. Still, very cool. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 18, 2009 by carbonadam Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/77099-midnight-meat-train-m4/?do=findComment&comment=812424'>More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted February 18, 2009 Share #5 Posted February 18, 2009 That is a M4-2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelpk Posted February 18, 2009 Share #6 Posted February 18, 2009 Hard to tell. The lens hood covers what would be either the "-P" or the "-2". I'm leaning towards an M4-P. Don't think the M4-2 had the red Leitz dot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonadam Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted February 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Either way, still way cool that there is a Leica in the film. Made my evening when I saw it. The film was good too, for what it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nei1 Posted February 18, 2009 Share #8 Posted February 18, 2009 Its the M4 P the M4 2 has no red dot as joelpk says. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digbyhp Posted February 18, 2009 Share #9 Posted February 18, 2009 Could start an interesting thread on the incidence of Leicas appearing in movies. My contribution would be 'Eurotrip', where one of the characters has an interesting outcome when getting his M7 serviced in Amsterdam.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikFive Posted February 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Could start an interesting thread on the incidence of Leicas appearing in movies. My contribution would be 'Eurotrip', where one of the characters has an interesting outcome when getting his M7 serviced in Amsterdam.... I can spare you the trouble Leica FAQ - Leica Spotting & at the Movies Edited February 18, 2009 by ErikFive Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted February 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted February 18, 2009 Thanks to Eliot on photo.net... The following additional variations of the M4-2 are documented: 1) earliest cameras, some 90-95 or so, all with the SN 1468xxx, have the red Leitz metal circle ("red dot") on the front vulcanite; 2) small details including the lens lock release button and a condenser lens in the rangefinder mechanism were changed from early to later production; 3) there was g gold plated M4-2 (Barnack commemorative) issued with matching gold 50/1.4 Summilux in 1979; and 4) there were small numbers of chrome M4-2s issued (but never catalogued), which turn up for sale from time to time. These were made on special request. Undoubtedly there are other variations of the M4-2 out there. Guess someone will have to phone the director and get the s/no Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted February 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted February 18, 2009 Its the M4 P the M4 2 has no red dot as joelpk says. The very first (~ 95 ?) M4-2 were black, had a red dot and are very rare ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikFive Posted February 18, 2009 Share #13 Posted February 18, 2009 I think I saw some pics or a trailer for the movie some time ago where the camera was in focus and strongly remember that it said M4-P, but I could be wrong... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindlessdocumentation Posted February 19, 2009 Share #14 Posted February 19, 2009 I too, always get a kick out of seeing an M-series in a film - even if it was a goofy one like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted May 24, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 24, 2014 Something that strikes me as interesting is how Bradley Cooper handles the M4-P in this movie. He removes the baseplate and taps the camera a couple of times to dislodge the film canister. He shoots with both eyes open most of the time, a habit that many rangefinder users have. And in one scene, he is clearly using a Leicavit to rapidly wind from one shot to the next. There's a little continuity gaffe at that point, as he goes from thumbing the wind lever to flicking the Leicavit and then back in the same sequence, but he is competently using a Leicavit. This suggests that Bradley Cooper is either quite familiar with how a Leica handles, or that he practiced with it for a while with someone who was able to show him how it was used. Also interesting is the choice of model. They could have been using a M7, MP or other modern version for the sake of product placement, but they went with a slightly lesser known model with an even more obscure method of winding. I'd love to be able to ask someone in this production why the M4-P was chosen and where it came from. While the movie is kind of hokey and cartoonishly gory, I consider the Leica to be an uncredited star in it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 24, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 24, 2014 Its the M4 P the M4 2 has no red dot as joelpk says. Yes. It is an M4-P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted May 28, 2014 Share #17 Posted May 28, 2014 Something that strikes me as interesting is how Bradley Cooper handles the M4-P in this movie. He removes the baseplate and taps the camera a couple of times to dislodge the film canister. He shoots with both eyes open most of the time, a habit that many rangefinder users have. And in one scene, he is clearly using a Leicavit to rapidly wind from one shot to the next. There's a little continuity gaffe at that point, as he goes from thumbing the wind lever to flicking the Leicavit and then back in the same sequence, but he is competently using a Leicavit. This suggests that Bradley Cooper is either quite familiar with how a Leica handles, or that he practiced with it for a while with someone who was able to show him how it was used. Also interesting is the choice of model. They could have been using a M7, MP or other modern version for the sake of product placement, but they went with a slightly lesser known model with an even more obscure method of winding. I'd love to be able to ask someone in this production why the M4-P was chosen and where it came from. While the movie is kind of hokey and cartoonishly gory, I consider the Leica to be an uncredited star in it! Actually the choice of M4 was pretty obvious in the movie, as the character did not exactly languish in luxury with the hobby of keeping up a Leica gear collection, rather used an affordable and tough second hand first rate camera which suited him. I liked the movie actually for what it was, although the main character somehow was creepy, yes the main character. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted June 3, 2014 Share #18 Posted June 3, 2014 Actually the choice of M4 was pretty obvious in the movie, as the character did not exactly languish in luxury with the hobby of keeping up a Leica gear collection, rather used an affordable and tough second hand first rate camera which suited him. I liked the movie actually for what it was, although the main character somehow was creepy, yes the main character. Dirk, what you say about the choice of camera makes sense, given Bradley Cooper's character. And the movie is as much about his predestined descent into that world as the events on the Meat Train, which would explain his creepiness. And I did like the movie, and watch it every now and again, for the movie and cinematography and not just the M4-P. Funny, but I handled a M4-2 in a shop and nearly bought it because of its light weight and even smaller build than the M7. Man, it felt really nice! But I didn't because it wasn't a M4-P, and lacked the 28mm framelines that I've come to depend upon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 3, 2014 Share #19 Posted June 3, 2014 … Funny, but I handled a M4-2 in a shop and nearly bought it because of its light weight and even smaller build than the M7. Man, it felt really nice! But I didn't because it wasn't a M4-P, and lacked the 28mm framelines that I've come to depend upon. Which is why I can't get over myself and sell my M6 classic despite hardly using it anymore. It is in some ways the best Leica M, ever made. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted June 3, 2014 Share #20 Posted June 3, 2014 I use a viewfinder for 28mm with my M4 and M6. With hyperfocal focus and an external meter, it is such a clean view through the viewfinder and very very fast. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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