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Old 05/15/08, 09:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I know I find them quite dispiriting.

Here's the link to another 'film is dead headline'....
State of the Art: Film Is Officially Dead in Japan

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Old 05/15/08, 10:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yawn.
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Old 05/15/08, 10:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That may be true, but at the same time Japan is home to what are probably the most rabid Leica and Nikon collectors on the planet.

Oddly enough it is not unusual to spot Japanese tourists in my neck of the woods, with a shiny classic SLR around their neck.
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Old 05/15/08, 11:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Double yawn. Film camera sales have absolutely nothing to do with film sales.
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Old 05/15/08, 11:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

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Old 05/16/08, 10:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I know I find them quite dispiriting.

Here's the link to another 'film is dead headline'....
State of the Art: Film Is Officially Dead in Japan
...imho, there will always be a market, albeit small, for hand-made precision analog instruments...like fine mechanical watches, meisterstuck 149s, e39 m5s...or an mp/m7...if anything, as a counter-point to the mass-marketed quickly obsolete sterile electronics world where a dslr is but an extension of your computer with a lens at the front...
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Old 05/16/08, 01:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Oh for goodness sake!!!!

The article isn't about film anyway, its about sales of new film cameras in Japan - and anyway 1580 new film camera sales in one month is more than I perhaps would've guessed at. Plus all the s/h film camera sales (why buy new, there's never been a better time to buy s/h film gear has there?).
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Old 05/16/08, 01:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh I'm terribly worried - not!
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Old 05/16/08, 02:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That's it...I'm selling the lot and going back to charcoal.
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Old 05/16/08, 04:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I know the sky is not falling. I simply meant does the "film is dead" talk, annoy you?
I prefer the look of film images and I like the fact that my film cameras do not go obsolete on me every 8-12 months. I just wish the digital folks would enjoy their goodies without hyping the 'film is dead, over, quaint, passe....blah blah...blah!
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I think the reaction to your question speaks for itself!
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Old 05/16/08, 05:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Headlines that trouble me are the headlines that do not give a clue to what the thread is about.
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Old 05/16/08, 06:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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They still make vinyl versions of new recordings. I'm not worried. I'm not sure why anyone would buy a new film camera anyway (well, except for maybe an MP or M7).
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Old 05/16/08, 06:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That's alright, Ian. I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference.

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To Ian Watts and Bill Palmer,

I've just looked at your sites. You both produce superb photos.

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Thank you for taking the time, and for your kind words, Ken.

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Old 05/17/08, 12:31 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It does annoy me. Not because film is dead, I know it is not, I am using it and have no problem with getting it (as well as paper, chemistry and everything else), but problem is next: When someone who maybe think to try film see that kind of statements he or she easily can think it is true and forget about film.

That is something which makes me angry with digital imagers and magazines. Those statements. One magazine available here has in every issue atleast one article with things like "film is gone", "film is dead", "film is history", etc...

They (digitalers) are not happy only becuse they take market by waste majority, they want to kill analogue photography for good. Like when they see man lying on street in pains, then will come and shoot him in head, to finish him completely. That is what makes me angry, that can not simply let us, this (not so) small group of analogue photograhers, they don't let us be. Thet simply hate that we exists at all, and they want to kill and erase any thought of analogue photography. Because they are afraid of analogue or what? Because of knowing deeply inside they are wrong? Who knows...

I do understant, manufacturers of digi toys want to get as many buyers and profit as they can, and because manufacturers paying ads in magazines, magazines are together with digi toy manufacturers in killing of analogue.

I only woud like them to let us alone, I mean to stop to saying "film is dead" stupidities. OK, you digi are won, so let us dinosaures to be.

I only wonder if someome told Fuji, Kodak, Ilford, Adox, Foma, EFKE, Rollei, and many others... that film is dead...?
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Old 05/17/08, 12:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Saw an interview last week with a Japanese guy. He said they use film in Japan, not digital.

I honestly don`t care if a film camera is never made again as I have enough for many lifetimes.
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Old 05/17/08, 01:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yodobashi Camera in Shinjuku still has a whole store dedicated to selling film. I am sure there are others as well. Maybe brand new cameras are not selling but used ones are definitely selling very well on auction sites including Leicas and Nikon F6 (I just picked up an M7 and sold my old Nikon F4 and F5). If there is no new technology, then buying used is a safe and economical bet.
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