DigitalHeMan Posted June 30, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 30, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am planning to take my M6 with me on holiday to act as a second camera (and in the worst case as a back up to my M-E) and am wondering about colour film stock. In the past I have shot Portra 160, and had good results from it, but I'm wondering, especially with the restriction of 1//1000s max shutter speed, whether I should try a slower film. Problem is, I can't find one..... Seems like both Fuji and Kodak start off with 160iso as their slowest films today - Does anyone have any suggestions for anything slower, like 50iso? I have an ND filter that I can use, but that will most probably be on the M-E Or should I bite the bullet and try some Velvia? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xalo Posted June 30, 2014 Share #2 Posted June 30, 2014 If you want to stick to colour negatives, you only have the highly saturated Kodak Ektar 100 left, as far as I know. Perhaps also a variety of cheaper, drugstore distributed 100 iso film of not always transparent makes and labels, but reportedly often ok quality. Lomography also proposes a number of slower speed (?) films, I think, but with — how to say — special effects built-in. I'd go for (and actually do) Fuji Provia 100F slide film. It's not 50, but has very fine grain, natural colour, pushes well (200 are hardly noticeable to me), according to Fuji also higher (they say that to cover up the abandoning of the 400X), so it could be multipurpose. The Velvia sure is special, but even more different from the Portra. Enjoy. Alexander 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berth Posted June 30, 2014 Share #3 Posted June 30, 2014 Ektar 100. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted June 30, 2014 Share #4 Posted June 30, 2014 Velvia isn't a general purpose film for holiday snaps. Unless you have enough time and inclination to familiarise yourself with it, forget it, you'll be disappointed in at least 85% of your images. Why is the M6 max. 1/1000th sec a problem with Portra 160 or Ektar? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted June 30, 2014 Share #5 Posted June 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Simon If you were tempted to shoot B+W, why not try Adox CMS-20 II, which exposes from ISO 20 - ISO 80 and is developed either in Rodinal or its dedicated developer, Adotech. There are some examples of excellent results on the forum. Here's one http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/337148-walking-play-hoops-nyc-96th-fdr.html If you check posts by the same author there should be some more Edited June 30, 2014 by robert_parker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr237 Posted July 1, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 1, 2014 I second the recommendation for Provia 100. It's balanced and versatile for the variety of situations you find yourself in while traveling. Ektar has its time and place, but its red saturation makes it poor for people pictures. Caucasian skin tones look ruddy and unnatural. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted July 1, 2014 Share #7 Posted July 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) What's the lowest iso setting of your M-E? Use the Portra 160 run through at EI 125. In bright sunlight that's f5.6@1/1000. If you want to be wider get another 3 stop ND filter taking you to f2@1/1000 in bright sunlight (i.e, wide open on a Summicron). Pete 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted July 1, 2014 Thanks for all the tips. The lowest ISO on the M-E is 160, but the difference is the top shutter speed is 1/4000, giving me two extra stops. I'll see if I can find some Provia and try that out, or otherwise just stick with Portra and buy a second ND filter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted July 1, 2014 Share #9 Posted July 1, 2014 Velvia 50asa is my colour transparency film of choice for landscape photography, but it takes a lot of time, expense and refining of technique to get the best from it. With Provia, you will also need to adapt your technique, ie, don't rely on the built-in meter, use a spot meter and beware of high contrast situations. Against this similarity of approach with Velvia and Provia with the same caveats, I would always choose Velvia 50asa, but not for people photography. I'm guessing you'll want to photograph anything from people, landscapes, architecture etc in a variety of conditions, so it might be best to stick with Portra or Ektar for a reasonable success rate. Of the two, I personally would choose Ektar for being slightly more versatile. Again, you will need time to experiment with it beforehand to understand when to adjust the exposure up or down to exploit the contrast and saturation characteristics of Ektar. This is where many people go wrong with this film, there is a bit more to using it than just loading a camera with it and pointing it at something. It is a 'warm' emulsion, but if you are scanning the negatives, that is a non-issue. Where are you travelling to? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted July 3, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted July 3, 2014 Thanks Honcho. We're off to Singapore and Bali so the colors are important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
honcho Posted July 3, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 3, 2014 Very nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gberger Posted July 4, 2014 Share #13 Posted July 4, 2014 In Singapore and Bali, you'll find the light somewhat different than in the Northern latitudes, so, if you intend to use transparency film, you might want to invest in an incident meter. Just a thought 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 6, 2014 Share #14 Posted July 6, 2014 Spend the money on another ND filter and stick with the Portra 160 that you are familiar with. Less agony. Honcho is right about the learning curve for Ektar100. IMO the Ektar would push you 'over the top' with colours in a location like Singapore and I suspect the contrast could be unmanageable at times. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalHeMan Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted July 6, 2014 Thanks John, that's exactly what I have done now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted July 6, 2014 Share #16 Posted July 6, 2014 Fuji Velvia 50 (E6) is a very saturated color slide film, nice for landscape photography. For regular use and E6 slide I would recommend Provia 100F. In color negative films I would recommend to stay with your Portra 160/400, maybe with any good (Heliopan, B+W) ND filter. Alternative the Fuji pro 400H. For B&W you could try the new Rollei RPX-25 film although slow speed B&W films have big trouble in harsh light contrast situations so also here you could make your choice on any good iso 400 or iso 100 B&W film in combination with the ND filter. Have a nice holiday! Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.w Posted October 28, 2014 Share #17 Posted October 28, 2014 I'm keen to give this 50 ISO C41 film from CineStill a go soon: 50Daylight Fine Grain (ISO 50) Color Film - Pro-Pack (5 Rolls), 36exp. – CineStill Film Film News: New Cinestill 50 ISO Daylight Xpro C-41 Film - Japan Camera Hunter Apologies if it has already been discussed elsewhere. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 28, 2014 Share #18 Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) Simon, I agree for Kodak Ektar 100 if you like Kodak brand Look at the "film thread" Ektar 100 post 1482 +1483 +1492 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-75.html .... and I add Fuji 100 if you like nature and flowers Fuji 100 Superia post 1651 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-83.html Fuji 100 post 1621, 1622,1623,1633 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-82.html Fuji 100 post 1608 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-81.html Fuji 100 post 1555 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-78.html Fuji Acros100 post 1501 and Fuji Superia 100 post 1512 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-76.html Best Henry PS: Purchased film in Europe before departure to be safe and put them in a bag anti radiation as I did in my last Asian humanitarian medical mission in March 2014 (40 rolls) Edited October 28, 2014 by Doc Henry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeswe Posted October 29, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 29, 2014 I'm keen to give this 50 ISO C41 film from CineStill a go soon: 50Daylight Fine Grain (ISO 50) Color Film - Pro-Pack (5 Rolls), 36exp. – CineStill Film Film News: New Cinestill 50 ISO Daylight Xpro C-41 Film - Japan Camera Hunter Apologies if it has already been discussed elsewhere. If you want to print/scan from the negatives of your once in a lifetime holiday five years down the road, you might be in for a nasty surprise. The dyes of cine film "cross processed" in C41 are not long sterm stable. It may be a nice film to play around and experiment but I wouldn't shoot anything where image permanence is a requirement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeswe Posted October 29, 2014 Share #20 Posted October 29, 2014 Simon,I agree for Kodak Ektar 100 if you like Kodak brand Look at the "film thread" Ektar 100 post 1482 +1483 +1492 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-75.html .... and I add Fuji 100 if you like nature and flowers Fuji 100 Superia post 1651 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-83.html Fuji 100 post 1621, 1622,1623,1633 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-82.html Fuji 100 post 1608 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-81.html Fuji 100 post 1555 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-78.html Fuji Acros100 post 1501 and Fuji Superia 100 post 1512 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/286747-i-like-film-open-thread-76.html Best Henry PS: Purchased film in Europe before departure to be safe and put them in a bag anti radiation as I did in my last Asian humanitarian medical mission in March 2014 (40 rolls) Where do you buy Fuji Superia 100? I haven't seen any here (Europe) in a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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