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Kodak Ektar 100


Edwin Ho

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I have scanned a roll of Ektar 100 using Canon 8800F via VueScan in DNG.

 

Scanned images seemed "overpowering" with strong vibrance and saturation. To reduce it, I edited this in LR via the the vibrance and saturation tabs.

 

Questions:

 

1. Is this a norm with Kodak Ektar 100 (strong vibrance and saturation)? Will Portra 160 NC produce a different result?

2. Is the above method one of many solutions. Any suggestions?

 

My setting in VueScan:

 

Colour tab - I have chosen Kodak - Ektar - 100 Gen 1 (don't know what "Gen 1" means).

 

Thank you in advance for any comments/advice.

 

NB: I am quite happy with the overall results after editing in LR3.

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Colour tab - I have chosen Kodak - Ektar - 100 Gen 1 (don't know what "Gen 1" means).

 

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'Generic 1', it may be worth you trying it, the Ektar setting is only an approximation and still amounts to somebody else's opinion.

 

Yes, Ektar is a powerful film and it is easy to loose information when scanning it given the high contrast and saturation. The answer as ever with any type of film is not to scan it for a finished image (to be later rescued in Lightroom), but scan it specifically for post processing in Lightroom/Photoshop. So try setting your shadow and highlight clipping points to 0% and make a low contrast scan. It won't look good, you'll think 'this can't work', but you will know that no information has been left out or overdone where at all possible. Often simply importing the flat boring image into Lightroom and pressing 'Auto Contrast' works wonders at this point and gives a very good starting point for further adjustments. However you approach the final step is open, but the tones are all there and just need organising.

 

Steve

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Strong vibrancy and saturation is the norm for Ektar. Portra will give you much more natural colours and require a lot less pp

 

Thank you for confirming that. I've used Portra once before and could see the difference.

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'Generic 1', it may be worth you trying it, the Ektar setting is only an approximation and still amounts to somebody else's opinion.

 

Yes, Ektar is a powerful film and it is easy to loose information when scanning it given the high contrast and saturation. The answer as ever with any type of film is not to scan it for a finished image (to be later rescued in Lightroom), but scan it specifically for post processing in Lightroom/Photoshop. So try setting your shadow and highlight clipping points to 0% and make a low contrast scan. It won't look good, you'll think 'this can't work', but you will know that no information has been left out or overdone where at all possible. Often simply importing the flat boring image into Lightroom and pressing 'Auto Contrast' works wonders at this point and gives a very good starting point for further adjustments. However you approach the final step is open, but the tones are all there and just need organising.

 

Steve

 

I set my black point to 0% and white point to 1%, I shall try a 0% on white point in the future. I am quite happy to edit in LR for all my scans. I am a newbie at scanning and gradually learning.

 

Thank you for your input.

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Thank you for confirming that. I've used Portra once before and could see the difference.

 

Well, I expect you would see the difference. Comparison between Ektar and Portra is misleading here as these emulsions have completely different characteristics and are intended for different applications. People who criticise Ektar for being highly saturated with excessive contrast invariably have themselves to blame for making the wrong choice of film in the first place.

 

Ektar is primarily intended as a C41 alternative to E6 and within it's remit does it's intended job exceptionally well, particularly with scenic and illustrative subjects, but you do need to keep an eye on the bias towards reds.

 

Portra is primarily intended for portrait and fashion work where skin tones, smooth tonal transition and contrast control are the primary considerations.

 

Both have very fine grain and scan well.

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Well, I expect you would see the difference. Comparison between Ektar and Portra is misleading here as these emulsions have completely different characteristics and are intended for different applications. People who criticise Ektar for being highly saturated with excessive contrast invariably have themselves to blame for making the wrong choice of film in the first place.

 

Ektar is primarily intended as a C41 alternative to E6 and within it's remit does it's intended job exceptionally well, particularly with scenic and illustrative subjects, but you do need to keep an eye on the bias towards reds.

 

Portra is primarily intended for portrait and fashion work where skin tones, smooth tonal transition and contrast control are the primary considerations.

 

Both have very fine grain and scan well.

 

Thank you, I am learning.

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