VueScan blues

[rob_x2004]

Have been trialing VueScan. Found I am getting a distinct colour cast. Have been toggling through a number of settings and film profiles but havent been all that sucessful so far.

The following is an example. I haven't fixed it yet, but it is the colour cast I am dealing with. Any suggestions?

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[rob_x2004]

This is about eight seconds editing work in curves ex scan file from Minolta software.
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This is ten minutes solid work trying to figure out a mess from the VueScan files. The colours look kind of transparent rather than being dense and bright and I havent worked out the fix yet. Clouds might be a lead? There is less detail in them.
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I "think" the Vuescan is giving me more definition in the scans but sorting out the colours is proving a struggle.

[imported_peter_m]

Did you set the color balance? In the color tab or you can right click on a neutral spot.

Some of the film profiles seam to be off a bit and it took me a wile to come up with settings I am happy with.


Peter

[imported_peter_m]

Did you try the curved in Vue?

Peter

[rob_x2004]

Thanks, will give it a go. Am trying to get a neutral sort of file from VueScan so that editing isnt a task.

Havent looked at tone curves in VS. Been leaning away from the VS film profiles because I have been a bit more sucessful with setting to "Generic"

[erl]

Rob,

I just did a 2 sec 'fix' in VS to produce the following from your image. Somehow, (don't know why!) the image has shrunk substantially, but the colours look proper to me now.

However, remember what I said yesterday, VS is scanning software, not editing software. I always correct level, and colour if necessary, in PS. In this case, I went to the colour tab in VS and manually moved the colour sliders slightly to make it more pleasing to my eye. I would normally do that in PS, just as quickly. If batch processing proof-scans in VS, I set a 'close' colur balance under the colour tab just to avoid fiddling with proofs in PS.

In addition to all that, just do more practice and playing with 'twiddles'. It does come together. Just remember to keep the widest black & white points to cover the entire histogram, unless you are just doing proofs. Then, set to visual 'best'.

[stnami]

That's why I paid the extra and went Silverfast, VueScan just looked thin..........................................sure they were crisp but the blue got to me as well

[imported_peter_m]

That is why I went with VueScan........ didn't get along with Silverfast

Peter

[erl]

Originally Posted by stnami

That's why I paid the extra and went Silverfast, VueScan just looked thin..........................................sure they were crisp but the blue got to me as well

"One size fits all" has to be a compromise. If you want scanning software to do editing as well, you must logically expect some downside. For the extra trouble of exporting to PS (which incidentally does not scan - thankfully-) I believe VS does what it is designed to do. Scan to the max! Manipulation is what PS does, .... best.

Rider: Personal preference must have the last decision, so we all end up doing different things ultimately.

[rob_x2004]

I still do all my editing in an editing program. I use Corel though because it is a more comprehensive editor than Photoshop. Photoshop is good for applying plug ins from what I can see. The above were examples of what I could get to from the minotla scan and the VS scan. My problem is that Minolta wont be providing me any drivers for Vista.

[rob_x2004]

The Silverfast problem is that they dont write a Minolta 5400ii driver for Vista either. They might do one for XP, I didnt check at teh time. If I buy XP, well Minolta software should work fine.

[Bernd Banken]

make a Vuescan in RAW and work out these files in Adobe Lightroom, if you have.

Bernd

[rob_x2004]

Where do I find RAW, or do you mean in color tab Color balance=none, Negative vendor=GENERIC?

[PATB]

Originally Posted by rob_x2004

Where do I find RAW, or do you mean in color tab Color balance=none, Negative vendor=GENERIC?

I am at work so can't confirm. I believe RAW is a selection in the OUTPUT TAB.

[imported_peter_m]

Rob,

The raw and DNG option is only available in the pro version so if you use the demo you won't have it.

Peter

[cbretteville]

VueScan is an excellent piece of software, but it does hve it's quirks. It is a one man operation AFAIK and Ed would rather deal with supporting new stuff than overhauling the interface. It has a steep curve, but once you get past that it gives you great results.

The best tip someone here gave me was to save settings/profiles. All changes you do are sticky so they'll be there next time you open the program, this can be really frustrating. I save the setting I have when I'm happy with say Provia 400 or a rol of B&W that I use a lot. Then bringing up that same set of settings is just a matter of loading the file rather thna remembering where to make all the changes.

- Carl

[imported_peter_m]

Yes to what Carl said!

Saving presets is a good way to get settings back that work or give a good starting point.

That is how I understand it Its just a one man show but he dose have frequent updates to the program and since I had it the UI did change a bit.

Peter

[erl]

As Peter said, the RAW is in the Pro ver. I would have thought that the Demo Ver. had all the features, but don't really know. It seems you may have more problems getting the Minolta software to run than learning the VS stuff. I would council you to persist with VS and just keep badgering us for help to come up to speed, even for little niggly aspects. Once mastered, VS is truly supreme. Keep at it mate.

[Photoskeptic]

Rob, I use SilverFast with my 5400 (series 1) using XP. Couldn't be happier.

[Nitrox]

Hi!
Scanning Negatives (the example is a scanned Neg, right?) is one of the most challenging Tasks in Scanning. I've now found a way to get good results with my Scanner, the Nikon 9000: Use Vuescan, scan the Neg as a Raw, use "Generic Color Negative" (this should't have an effect on the Raw scan, but it does!), use at last 4x Multisampling and then invert the picture in Photoshop via a Program that is called "NegPos". All other methods will give you unpleasant Grain and Scanner noise and strange colors.
Regards,
Peter