cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Share #1 Posted March 24, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The color with lightroom are sometimes horrible (reds , blues , ...) They are better in capture one but I prefer to use Lightroom I have tried x-rite colorchecker passport to create a m-240.dcp profile and apply it in lightroom but it doesn't work as expected Do you have any tip to use Capture One profile into Lightroom ? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Hi cirke, Take a look here x-rite colorchecker passport. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rob_w Posted March 24, 2015 Share #2 Posted March 24, 2015 I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted March 24, 2015 I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR?Yes but I get no results, my x-rite dng profile in Lightroom doesn't workI see no difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted March 24, 2015 Share #4 Posted March 24, 2015 If you do a dual illuminant profile in X-rite, using their software, you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though. There are some small differences between "embedded" and "standard" but either is sufficient as a starting point. Not sure exactly why the defaults for you are so far off. I use Photoshop CC and the ACR is supposedly the same as between LR and Photoshop. (I am assuming you have the latest iteration) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Root Posted March 24, 2015 Share #5 Posted March 24, 2015 Dear Erick, I have created several color checker profiles and loaded and used them in Lighroom (5.7) and they work fine. I have created special ones such as tungsten profiles for some lenses such as the Noctilux in tungsten lighting. It requires a little bit of experimenting but worth it! It's taste as well... It usually results in less saturated reds and blues and a slight shift from magenta to red which helps with some skin tones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Dear Erick, I have created several color checker profiles and loaded and used them in Lighroom (5.7) and they work fine. I have created special ones such as tungsten profiles for some lenses such as the Noctilux in tungsten lighting. It requires a little bit of experimenting but worth it! It's taste as well... It usually results in less saturated reds and blues and a slight shift from magenta to red which helps with some skin tones.I have done one in a normal morning light and followed all the explanation do create it but it has no effect at all , same horrible over-saturated reds in Capture One the reds are very good i'll try again but the process to create one is simple Edited March 24, 2015 by erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) If you do a dual illuminant profile in X-rite, using their software, you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though. There are some small differences between "embedded" and "standard" but either is sufficient as a starting point. Not sure exactly why the defaults for you are so far off. I use Photoshop CC and the ACR is supposedly the same as between LR and Photoshop. (I am assuming you have the latest iteration) I have the last version of Lightroom and ACR 8.8 you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though.with capture one there is a huge difference Edited March 24, 2015 by erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted March 24, 2015 my M240 profile -> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lf0j52cv3g2zgdg/profil-m-240.dcp?dl=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 24, 2015 Share #9 Posted March 24, 2015 I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR? I find it really helps. The XRite software exports the profile to Photoshop ( and presumably to LR as well) automatically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted March 24, 2015 Share #10 Posted March 24, 2015 Do you make a profile for each shoot -- more or less -- or just a small set for most typical light conditions? I find the colour with the M240 can be unkind to some skin tones and sometimes quite off the mark under certain lighting conditions. It can take quite a bit of fiddling to get it right in post-processing. I just wonder whether I would have the discipline to use the x-rite regularly if that is what is needed. Might just accept my losses and stick with the photos where the colour does work. Lazy but pragmatic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted March 24, 2015 Do you make a profile for each shoot -- more or less -- or just a small set for most typical light conditions? I find the colour with the M240 can be unkind to some skin tones and sometimes quite off the mark under certain lighting conditions. It can take quite a bit of fiddling to get it right in post-processing. I just wonder whether I would have the discipline to use the x-rite regularly if that is what is needed. Might just accept my losses and stick with the photos where the colour does work. Lazy but pragmatic! normally with colorchecker passport you do only one profile Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 24, 2015 Share #12 Posted March 24, 2015 I have done one in a normal morning light and followed all the explanation do create it but it has no effect at all , same horrible over-saturated reds in Capture One the reds are very good i'll try again but the process to create one is simple Not always so simple, as noted here. You might also google some videos using the Passport….each a bit different, with some subtle use and technique distinctions. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted March 24, 2015 Not always so simple, as notedthe chart was at once accepted by the software and I could export the profile Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 25, 2015 Share #14 Posted March 25, 2015 the chart was at once accepted by the software and I could export the profile I bet 01af could, too…several times... in his example. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted March 25, 2015 Share #15 Posted March 25, 2015 See here my little test: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/295909-bad-m240-colors-fairy-tale.html There is no big difference between Adobe Standard and the color checker profile. The color checker has its worth, if You want to have a series of photos the same colors at different light condition. If You want more pleasing colors, take this preset. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/forum-zur-leica-m9/181902-mein-kameraprofil-fuer-die-m9.html I made it fore my M9. The M240 has nearly the same colors as the M9 (see also here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/361314-400-leica-photographers-agree-we-love-2.html#post2889875), so it may also work for the M240. Elmar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted March 25, 2015 Thank You Elmar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted March 25, 2015 Share #17 Posted March 25, 2015 .... The M240 has nearly the same colors as the M9...Elmar I don't think so. Two different sensors have rather different interpretations of colour rendition. Search and you will find many users share this view. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted March 26, 2015 Share #18 Posted March 26, 2015 Look at my pictures and You will not share their view. I think the differences they see are mainly caused by the white balance. Elmar Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted May 8, 2016 Share #19 Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) The color with lightroom are sometimes horrible (reds , blues , ...) They are better in capture one but I prefer to use Lightroom I have tried x-rite colorchecker passport to create a m-240.dcp profile and apply it in lightroom but it doesn't work as expected Do you have any tip to use Capture One profile into Lightroom ? thanks This is precisely the post I was about to post. Thanks Google! As usual, the thread ran out of steam with no real conclusion. Is it worth trying again? I, too, like the user interface of Lightroom, but the colours with Capture One 9 (trial) are so much better (reds, skin tones, greens) so I find myself wondering whether to spend yet more money on another software program I'm not fully happy with (Capture One) or risk buying an XRite Color Checker to faff about with until I come to the conclusion that these things only seem to work for other people. Has anyone used the XRite Color Checker with Lightroom and found all their M240 colour issues have been solved? Pete Edited May 8, 2016 by Stealth3kpl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB Posted May 8, 2016 Share #20 Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) ... I find myself wondering whether to spend yet more money on another software program I'm not fully happy with (Capture One) or risk buying an XRite Color Checker to faff about with until I come to the conclusion that these things only seem to work for other people. Has anyone used the XRite Color Checker with Lightroom and found all their M240 colour issues have been solved? Pete The purpose of the X-Rite ColorChecker, unless your objective is to make the colour in your photographs faithful to the subject (e.g. in product photography), is to give you a neutral starting point. To make it work, the chart has to be photographed in the light prevailing, or close to it, at the time the photograph is made. Ideally, this means photographing the ColourChecker every time you make photographs in a given light situation; or at least photographing under, and creating a profile for, each of the general types of light conditions that you encounter. For the latter approach, you might have a profile for early morning, late afternoon, overcast, bright sun, etc., although as Joe Brady, who is an X-Rite "evangelist" for the product, points out in one of his YouTube videos, even these may vary by geographic area. The ColorChecker does work, but for my photography I think it's too cumbersome for many situations, so I use it in fairly specific circumstances. Edited May 8, 2016 by STB 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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