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The color with lightroom are sometimes horrible (reds , blues , ...) They are better in capture one but I prefer to use Lightroom

 

I have tried x-rite colorchecker passport to create a m-240.dcp profile and apply it in lightroom but it doesn't work as expected

 

Do you have any tip to use Capture One profile into Lightroom ?

 

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I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR?

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I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR?
Yes but I get no results, my x-rite dng profile in Lightroom doesn't work

I see no difference

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If you do a dual illuminant profile in X-rite, using their software, you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though. There are some small differences between "embedded" and "standard" but either is sufficient as a starting point. Not sure exactly why the defaults for you are so far off. I use Photoshop CC and the ACR is supposedly the same as between LR and Photoshop. (I am assuming you have the latest iteration)

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Dear Erick, I have created several color checker profiles and loaded and used them in Lighroom (5.7) and they work fine. I have created special ones such as tungsten profiles for some lenses such as the Noctilux in tungsten lighting. It requires a little bit of experimenting but worth it! It's taste as well... It usually results in less saturated reds and blues and a slight shift from magenta to red which helps with some skin tones.

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Dear Erick, I have created several color checker profiles and loaded and used them in Lighroom (5.7) and they work fine. I have created special ones such as tungsten profiles for some lenses such as the Noctilux in tungsten lighting. It requires a little bit of experimenting but worth it! It's taste as well... It usually results in less saturated reds and blues and a slight shift from magenta to red which helps with some skin tones.
I have done one in a normal morning light and followed all the explanation do create it

but it has no effect at all , same horrible over-saturated reds

 

in Capture One the reds are very good

 

i'll try again but the process to create one is simple

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If you do a dual illuminant profile in X-rite, using their software, you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though. There are some small differences between "embedded" and "standard" but either is sufficient as a starting point. Not sure exactly why the defaults for you are so far off. I use Photoshop CC and the ACR is supposedly the same as between LR and Photoshop. (I am assuming you have the latest iteration)

I have the last version of Lightroom and ACR 8.8

 

you should see some differences. Not dramatic, though.
with capture one there is a huge difference Edited by erick
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I too am tempted by the x-rite, or something similar, for better control of colour under difficult conditions. Any experiences of x-rite by forum members, either positive or negative -- and the more general question of creating good user profiles for LR?

 

I find it really helps. The XRite software exports the profile to Photoshop ( and presumably to LR as well) automatically.

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Do you make a profile for each shoot -- more or less -- or just a small set for most typical light conditions? I find the colour with the M240 can be unkind to some skin tones and sometimes quite off the mark under certain lighting conditions. It can take quite a bit of fiddling to get it right in post-processing.

 

I just wonder whether I would have the discipline to use the x-rite regularly if that is what is needed. Might just accept my losses and stick with the photos where the colour does work. Lazy but pragmatic!

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Do you make a profile for each shoot -- more or less -- or just a small set for most typical light conditions? I find the colour with the M240 can be unkind to some skin tones and sometimes quite off the mark under certain lighting conditions. It can take quite a bit of fiddling to get it right in post-processing.

 

I just wonder whether I would have the discipline to use the x-rite regularly if that is what is needed. Might just accept my losses and stick with the photos where the colour does work. Lazy but pragmatic!

 

normally with colorchecker passport you do only one profile

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I have done one in a normal morning light and followed all the explanation do create it

but it has no effect at all , same horrible over-saturated reds

 

in Capture One the reds are very good

 

i'll try again but the process to create one is simple

 

Not always so simple, as noted here.

 

You might also google some videos using the Passport….each a bit different, with some subtle use and technique distinctions.

 

Jeff

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See here my little test:

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/295909-bad-m240-colors-fairy-tale.html

 

There is no big difference between Adobe Standard and the color checker profile. The color checker has its worth, if You want to have a series of photos the same colors at different light condition.

 

If You want more pleasing colors, take this preset.

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/forum-zur-leica-m9/181902-mein-kameraprofil-fuer-die-m9.html

 

I made it fore my M9. The M240 has nearly the same colors as the M9 (see also here:

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/361314-400-leica-photographers-agree-we-love-2.html#post2889875), so it may also work for the M240.

 

Elmar

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.... The M240 has nearly the same colors as the M9...

Elmar

I don't think so. Two different sensors have rather different interpretations of colour rendition. Search and you will find many users share this view.

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The color with lightroom are sometimes horrible (reds , blues , ...) They are better in capture one but I prefer to use Lightroom

 

I have tried x-rite colorchecker passport to create a m-240.dcp profile and apply it in lightroom but it doesn't work as expected

 

Do you have any tip to use Capture One profile into Lightroom ?

 

thanks

This is precisely the post I was about to post. Thanks Google! As usual, the thread ran out of steam with no real conclusion. Is it worth trying again?

I, too, like the user interface of Lightroom, but the colours with Capture One 9 (trial) are so much better (reds, skin tones, greens) so I find myself wondering whether to spend yet more money on another software program I'm not fully happy with (Capture One) or risk buying an XRite Color Checker to faff about with until I come to the conclusion that these things only seem to work for other people. Has anyone used the XRite Color Checker with Lightroom and found all their M240 colour issues have been solved?

Pete

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... I find myself wondering whether to spend yet more money on another software program I'm not fully happy with (Capture One) or risk buying an XRite Color Checker to faff about with until I come to the conclusion that these things only seem to work for other people. Has anyone used the XRite Color Checker with Lightroom and found all their M240 colour issues have been solved?

Pete

 

 

The purpose of the X-Rite ColorChecker, unless your objective is to make the colour in your photographs faithful to the subject (e.g. in product photography), is to give you a neutral starting point. To make it work, the chart has to be photographed in the light prevailing, or close to it, at the time the photograph is made. Ideally, this means photographing the ColourChecker every time you make photographs in a given light situation; or at least photographing under, and creating a profile for, each of the general types of light conditions that you encounter. For the latter approach, you might have a profile for early morning, late afternoon, overcast, bright sun, etc., although as Joe Brady, who is an X-Rite "evangelist" for the product, points out in one of his YouTube videos, even these may vary by  geographic area. The ColorChecker does work, but for my photography I think it's too cumbersome for many situations, so I use it in fairly specific circumstances.

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